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US builds up forward military presence near Russian borders — defense minister (8,000 US troops have been deployed)
Tass ^ | 12/21/21 | Tass

Posted on 12/21/2021 11:21:59 AM PST by C210N

MOSCOW, December 21. / TASS /. The US is building up a forward military presence near Russia’s borders, deploying about 8,000 troops in Eastern Europe, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said at the expanded meeting of the Defense Ministry Board on Tuesday.

"The US is scaling up its forward military presence near the Russian borders. In Eastern Europe, some 8,000 US troops have been deployed. As for the grouping of US troops in Germany, the Command Theater Engagement has been recreated there. Until 1991, it was responsible for using medium-range missiles," the defense minister noted. According to Shoigu, it is necessary to have strike missile weapons.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: biden; china; communism; mad; nato; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; sovietunion; tacticalnukes; ukraine; ussr; xi
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To: mvonfr

There was no ‘probably” about it. The Us was going to get involved and that sealed Germany’s fate.


121 posted on 12/21/2021 1:40:53 PM PST by laplata
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To: MercyFlush

You don’t need to be asked. You know where the fight is, you want others to fight. You might be old, but they would find something for you to do.
Go to Kiev and ask how you can be useful. Teach them about force multiplying. Take a lot of brochures and power points. If only they knew how easy it would be.


122 posted on 12/21/2021 1:42:42 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: quikstrike98

Thanks for that.


123 posted on 12/21/2021 1:47:51 PM PST by laplata
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To: quikstrike98; dforest; NorseViking

The United States violated the terms of the Budapest Memorandum when it started interfering in the domestic political affairs of Ukraine, culminating in the violent overthrow of their democratically elected President in 2014.

The memorandum served a useful purpose back when the Western world was serious about nuclear nonproliferation, but it should NOT be viewed as a binding commitment to defend the current regime in Kiev with military force.


124 posted on 12/21/2021 1:50:44 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: DesertRhino

The war in the East was lost by the Germans in December 1941.
They were a horse-drawn military with overextended supply lines, geared for short campaigns against wusses who were overwhelmed by German aggressiveness in direct proximity from Germany.
The Germans were incapable to sustain attrition on any scale. The moment Blitzkrieg stalled they were toast.


125 posted on 12/21/2021 1:51:10 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: mac_truck

I have no idea why anyone is even talking about Budapest. It wasn’t ratified to start with and then Ukrainian neutrality was the main condition. The neutrality wasn’t the case since 2007 when it applied to join NATO. That’s a year before the Georgian crisis everybody brings for the reason why Ukraine needs to be in NATO to start with.


126 posted on 12/21/2021 1:54:59 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: DownInFlames

He most likely doesn’t even know. The Pentagon will tell him when they decide he has the “need to know”.


127 posted on 12/21/2021 2:00:52 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: laplata

Probably is always there.

If Germany managed to occupy the UK and seal off the Gibraltar it would have been very difficult for the US to get in.

(But yes, no argument about the US intending to get involved.)


128 posted on 12/21/2021 2:02:08 PM PST by mvonfr
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To: NorseViking

True. Their only hope was to create a rebellion and act like liberators, which was not 100% impossible. But their psycho murderer act ended that.


129 posted on 12/21/2021 2:02:27 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: NorseViking
I have no idea why anyone is even talking about Budapest.

Its a neo-liberal talking point that gets trotted out every so often to justify more Western intervention.

130 posted on 12/21/2021 2:07:07 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: DesertRhino

Agree on German’s behavior being a huge factor. — and that they did indeed have the “liberator” option.

But it is not just the line. It is also that an advance to Ural would have stopped USSR from being able to produce armaments and much else. Capturing Moscow would have eliminated much of the railroad capacity. And capturing Stalingrad would have cut off oil - which largely came from Baku region, not Siberia like now.

So.. I’d not put German loss as a given, it was close.


131 posted on 12/21/2021 2:07:58 PM PST by mvonfr
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To: DesertRhino

“And all for a nazi infested globalist WEF Ukrainian coup. “

Klaus Schwab IS a NAZI.


132 posted on 12/21/2021 2:09:21 PM PST by dljordan (Slouching towards Woketopia)
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To: DesertRhino

So at this point you’re just being a troll and there’s no constructive reason to interact with you.

That said, kindly ignore my future posts and I’ll be sure to return the favor.


133 posted on 12/21/2021 2:39:32 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: dljordan

Schwab’s dad was a nazi. He is continuing the family business.


134 posted on 12/21/2021 2:50:10 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: MercyFlush

I won. You support McCain, Obama, Biden and Nuland. And you don’t care enough about Ukraine to head over and see how you can help.

That makes you the troll.


135 posted on 12/21/2021 2:52:05 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: MercyFlush

I won. You support McCain, Obama, Biden and Nuland. And you don’t care enough about Ukraine to head over and see how you can help.

That makes you the troll.


136 posted on 12/21/2021 2:52:06 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: mvonfr

I agree.


137 posted on 12/21/2021 2:52:23 PM PST by laplata
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To: Jewbacca

Start a war create a distraction. A new narrative for the scumedia to run with


138 posted on 12/21/2021 2:56:03 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: DesertRhino

“Their only hope was to create a rebellion and act like liberators, which was not 100% impossible. But their psycho murderer act ended that”.

That’s right. The Germans were welcomed as liberators in the Ukraine and they sure spoiled that.

The battle for Berlin was pure revenge on the Soviets part and karma against the Germans was horrible.


139 posted on 12/21/2021 2:57:29 PM PST by laplata
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To: DesertRhino

“Schwab’s dad was a nazi. He is continuing the family business.”

Seems like they won after all.


140 posted on 12/21/2021 2:59:46 PM PST by dljordan (Slouching towards Woketopia)
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