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To: Kazan
You're the one repeating Deep State/globalist propaganda...SOROS DID meet

See, there's this thing I have begun to notice.

Now, there's the good type of conspiracy which isn't really a conspiracy because it's supported by evidence.

And then there's the Russkie type of conspiracy, where nothing is based on evidence, but on innuendo, and distorted facts, or half truths, spat out at random that--at first glance--seem to imply something, but don't have any logical connection to anything.

For example, I've never claimed the Ukrainian government is perfect. In fact, that Jewish President is clearly a leftist. Poroshenko wasn't that much better. But then again... so are the Russkies you're quite in love with!

Your argument, or at least the argument amongst people here, is that the United States engaged in a conspiracy to put literal Nazis in power to thwart the righteous Russian empire which simultaneously has nothing to do with anything in Ukraine because the separatists are purely organic.

So John McCain flew to Ukraine. So?

So George Soros got a medal. So?

I have many friends in Ukraine who are opposed to Russia and hate leftists, one of whom was actively on the front lines and had to flee the country (now living in Brazil) due to Russian threats against him and his family. Isn't that a good enough anecdote to oppose yours? Am I going to say, "oh yeah, all the conspiracies are true because of some random anecdotes about Soros and the pitiful Ukrainian government, and therefore millions of Ukrainians should be raped and murdered by Russian orcs and goblins?"

Now, why the hell was Soros involved in pushing for the Ukrainian revolution in the first place,

Who cares? We know Yanukovych was a corrupt Russian stooge who was beating people on live television, having people kidnapped and gashing up their faces, but we're supposed to believe that all Ukrainian opposition to all of this is astroturfed from the CIA and George Soros--based on no evidence whatsoever other than a bunch of unconnected and meaningless factoids, most of it utterly fabricated by retarded Russkies!

But Ukraine's problems are none of our business, and Ukrainians should have the opportunity to resolve their own corruption and their own problems... without Putin coming in and raping people to death with hired Chechen Muslims and literal "National Bolsheviks" saluting Hitler and Stalin and Swastikas when not lining people up and shooting them as they film it for Russkie social media.

Your post attempting to counter Putin's pro-communist positions

Well, I don't really have the energy at 5am to go through your posts, but I think it suffices to show that his actions--that is, supporting every single communist country on Earth--settles the argument and which of his statements truly reflect his KGB soul.

96 posted on 12/17/2021 4:36:11 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

When the “corrupt stooge” Yanukovich was PM Ukraine scored the economic growth in between 5-12% annually.

Now it is the poorest country in Europe with “non-corrupt stooges”.

“Pro-Western” authorities managed to sell the ALCM design to Iran and China, and ICBM technology to North Korea.


97 posted on 12/17/2021 5:51:31 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
What conspiracy? It's a FACT that George Soros was deeply involved in pushing for the Ukrainian revolution and was awarded the medal of freedom after it occurred.

Why he do that unless he was benefiting financially or it advanced his left-wing agenda somehow?

Putin is absolutely NOT leftist and Russia is not left-wing. It's more conservative as a whole than this country now is. That is fact. You're completely ignorant of the subject matter.

I've spent hours educating myself about Russia, watching Russian YouTube. YouTubers is communist countries can't post what life is like in them.

The stance you want us to take toward Russia is the one would should be taking against a real communist nation and threat -- China. China is doing everything you imagine Russia is going.

We unnecessarily making Russia our enemy and wasting resources and energy fighting a nation that is little threat to us and could be our ally while going soft on the Chinese, who are everything you claim Russians are.

This type of ignorance is what is endangering our nation.

We should be normalizing relations with the Russians rather than pushing them toward China.

A Russia-US alliance might be the only thing that can stop China.

99 posted on 12/17/2021 3:20:52 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Your argument, or at least the argument amongst people here, is that the United States engaged in a conspiracy to put literal Nazis in power

That most certainly is NOT a point I've made or believe.

I don't care Ukrainian government. But, I do care that Obama/Biden/Soros have used Ukrainian to pester Russia. We've made an enemy of Putin for reasons that certainly have nothing to do with nationals security.

What is the objective of the far left/globalists/Deep States in bedeviling Putin and Russia? My guess is that it because Putin won't go along with West's woke agenda on issues like gay marriage, transgenderism and climate change. Putin is an obstacle to the great reset and/or the globalist agenda.

100 posted on 12/17/2021 3:27:26 PM PST by Kazan
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