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Can America and Japan Take Down the Chinese Military Together?
https://nationalinterest.org ^ | December 4, 2021 | by Kris Osborn

Posted on 12/04/2021 11:33:04 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

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To: RomanSoldier19

Can America and Japan Take Down the Chinese Military Together?
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Not if mutiny milley is still around.

He seems to be China’s early warning system.


41 posted on 12/04/2021 12:16:54 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: RomanSoldier19

Can America and Japan Take Down the Chinese Military Together?
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Not if mutiny milley is still around.

He seems to be China’s early warning system.


42 posted on 12/04/2021 12:16:57 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: RomanSoldier19

“Biden, Inc” is a longtime paid puppet of CCP and will NEVER attack his master.


43 posted on 12/04/2021 12:18:07 PM PST by newfreep (“Leftism, under all of its brand names, is a severe, violent & evil mental disorder.”)
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To: RomanSoldier19

The problem with a war with China is that China is almost ungovernable. A democratic China would be much worse than an autocratic leadership. It’s not that they lack direction, it’s that they have too much of it—competing systems and structures that make the whole chaotic.

Historically, China has had cyclical leadership, with each succeeding leader having predetermined objectives totally removed from his predecessor and successor. This means that when Xi is no longer in power, China’s direction will turn 90 degrees away from where it is heading now.


44 posted on 12/04/2021 12:21:08 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (META - Make Everything Trump Again)
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To: MtnClimber
We have a 4-star... admiral that would make the Chinese die laughing.

True - but even with that advantage, we would probably lose. I mean, imagine how long it would take for the feds to mail out over a hundred million "trigger warnings" to American lefty 'snowflakes' ("We may soon be in a state of war with China, which could interrupt your supply of flannel pajamas & hot chocolate"); I just don't see our military being ready to fire a single shot until months after the 'war' started (& ended)...

;>)

45 posted on 12/04/2021 12:23:26 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Shoeless Joe" played for the White Sox; "Clueless Joe" lives in the White House...)
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To: RomanSoldier19

With all the trannies and homos in our military the Chicoms should fear death by bong bongo.


46 posted on 12/04/2021 12:27:56 PM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: RomanSoldier19

War is won by logistics.


47 posted on 12/04/2021 12:28:22 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: MtnClimber

A Chinese flotilla lands 50 soldiers on Uotsuri Jima


And is instantly wiped out. The PLA has no battle experience ; its logistics suck ; its soldiers make great poses for propaganda pieces, but are not well fed and are mostly momma’s boys. Modern Chinese are accustomed to eating most of the day because their metabolism is so high. On the way to the Indian front, many of the troops spent the trip crying.

Any battle will come down to which army is the stronger paper tiger.


48 posted on 12/04/2021 12:37:10 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Mr. Blond
War is won by logistics.

Wars are lost by piss-poor decision making...

;>)

49 posted on 12/04/2021 12:37:13 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Shoeless Joe" played for the White Sox; "Clueless Joe" lives in the White House...)
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To: Who is John Galt?

The people the Bidet regime has leading our military is the same thing as waving a red cape in front of a bull.


50 posted on 12/04/2021 12:40:08 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

I don’t see how any conflict with China would not go nuclear within a day or less. Because neither would accept defeat. Once the conventional war turned on someone the numes would fly. That’s the reality of this situation.
If one accepts this premise I think it most likely that China would strike US bases in the Pacific with nukes first, and tell the world they were pre-empting a US nuclear attack and want to eliminate the threat from the US military. Depending on how the US responds it could be all out nuke war. Doomsday.


51 posted on 12/04/2021 12:43:06 PM PST by 2big2fail (.)
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To: Who is John Galt?
"Two points: (1) Japan has not been a major military power in decades, and (2) our 'woke' military would be a severe handicap to any Japanese defense efforts..."

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I beg to differ with your assessment of Japan's military prowess. Japan is ranked either number four or number five among the worlds militaries.

For 2021, Japan is ranked 5 of 140 out of the countries considered for the annual GFP review. https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.php?country_id=japan

4) Japan
Budget: $41.6 billion
Active frontline personnel: 247,173
Tanks: 678
Total aircraft: 1,613
Submarines: 16

In absolute terms, the Japanese military is relatively small. Nonetheless, the country is extremely well equipped.

According to Credit Suisse, it has the fourth largest submarine fleet in the list. Japan also has four aircraft carriers, although these vessels are only equipped with helicopter fleets.

Japan also has the fourth largest attack helicopter fleet behind China, Russia, and the US."

https://www.businessinsider.in/defense/ranked-the-worlds-20-strongest-militaries/slidelist/51930339.cms#slideid=51930365

I do agree with your judgement of the debauched, woke US military leadership and the Perfumed Princesses of the Pentagon.

The elephant in the room with article's argument is not talking about India. I doubt that India would stay out of a war between America and China because if American gets knocked out of the way then India is next.

52 posted on 12/04/2021 12:43:32 PM PST by WMarshal ("Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.")
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To: RomanSoldier19

Why Is The U.S. So Ridiculously Dependent On China?

Three of those reasons are onerous regulations, extreme environmental laws, followed closely by heavy taxation. NIMBY also plays a big role.

A new and rising factor is the lack of a large trained labor force, a labor force that demands a ‘living wage’ for entry level positions, forcing many small business (which large corporations depend on for the items that are not profitable for them to produce) to shut down or scale back plans because they cannot pay the high labor costs for low end labor.


53 posted on 12/04/2021 12:44:27 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: MtnClimber
The people the Bidet regime has leading our military is the same thing as waving a red cape in front of a bull.

A red cape, plus a bale of alfalfa and two buckets of oats...

54 posted on 12/04/2021 12:46:21 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Shoeless Joe" played for the White Sox; "Clueless Joe" lives in the White House...)
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To: delta7

That said, a war is WON through unconditional surrender of the enemy, the US has not won a war since 1945.


The last war China won was centuries ago ...


55 posted on 12/04/2021 12:47:07 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Here is m question: Would Xao Bai-Ding just surrender so we could be instantly under the boot of communism?


56 posted on 12/04/2021 12:49:47 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: WMarshal

Do you think they can use their resources in a competent manner? I don’t believe the Japanese have been engaged in hostilities for decades. I am not comparing Japan to Iraq, but IIRC Iraq’s military was ranked fairly high at one point - but then folded quickly...


57 posted on 12/04/2021 12:53:12 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Shoeless Joe" played for the White Sox; "Clueless Joe" lives in the White House...)
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58 posted on 12/04/2021 12:55:54 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit)
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To: MtnClimber

Here is m question: Would Xao Bai-Ding just surrender so we could be instantly under the boot of communism?


Xao Bai-Ding, would only be following the directions given by the 0bama/Gates/Soros clique, who are likely run by Xi Jinping and the CCP.

But with a gun behind every blade of grass and every tree, as the puffy armchair fairweather patriots like to say, it would be short lived. One of them would ride to our rescue with a boat load of fairy dust and fix the commies but good (right after their milk and cookies with their favorite petting animal session ended). You’ll see.


59 posted on 12/04/2021 1:12:25 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: RomanSoldier19

The CCP and Russia will attack Taiwan, Ukraine and the Baltics the same week.

The American JCS “Heroes of Afghanistan” will abandon hard fights even faster.

Russia and China understand this.


60 posted on 12/04/2021 1:24:10 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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