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To: Navy Patriot

Can’t believe some of the comments here.

Since some of you appear to know little about the actual facts involved, consider the following..

- The gun was bought FOR ETHAN (the shooter) by his dad on Black Friday at an Oxford gun shop, apparently as an illegal “straw purchase”. (Dad said he was buying for himself, then gave the gun to his son as a CHRISTMAS PRESENT). I later found out this is a federal felony punishable by up to 20 years. Hope the dad is charged on that in addition to the 4 counts of manslaughter he and his wife already got charged with by the County prosecutor today.

- Ethan posted something along the lines of “here’s MY new baby..Sig Sauer 9mm..any questions glad to answer” on Social media a couple days before the shootings. This further establishes the gun was bought FOR HIM by his dad.

- Kids cannot own or possess handguns in Michigan.

- Ethan drew some very disturbing images in class that were discovered and photographed by a teacher. Those images clearly showed that he intended to commit murder and even included a smiley emoji below images of some dead bodies.

- He was also caught browsing for ammo on his phone during class. Parents were notified yet never responded to the school. Instead, his mother texted him “LOL, I’m not mad at you..just try to not get caught next time”.

- The school pulled the parents in THAT SAME DAY to discuss “disturbing behavior” (like, drawing images of murdering people with a handgun). They were told to take him with them but did not do so. Why in the hell the school allowed him to return to class, did not even check his backpack, and didn’t eject him immediately will likely be the basis of many future lawsuits against the school that will be chip shots to win - probably to the tune of tens of millions of dollars for the plaintiffs.

This is hardly a “Soviet Show Trial”. Ethan cold-bloodedly killed 4 of his classmates with pre-meditation (as proven by writings, videos and social media posts made the night before) and injured 7 others. He appears to have done so gleefully. If that doesn’t define PURE EVIL, I’m not what does.

How some of you can even go down the “but, but, but, it’s just another trumped up story to take away our guns!!” is beyond me and candidly makes me sick to my stomach. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that four teenagers will never come home again. And no gun law would have changed it. His parents failed (buying him the gun and then not responding to the school when it was clear there danger). The school failed in not stopping him when it was clear there was danger (and will probably be sued to kingdom come). And the kid was just plain evil to the core.

The entire thing is tragic beyond words. Let’s not lose sight of the massive human tragedy here trying to make cheap political points one way or the other.


37 posted on 12/03/2021 12:08:32 PM PST by jstolzen
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To: jstolzen

Bravo!


41 posted on 12/03/2021 12:12:18 PM PST by madison10
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To: jstolzen
Can’t believe some of the comments here.

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

This is hardly a “Soviet Show Trial”.

In fact, if there is any deviation by the state from ABSOLUTE Equal Protection Under The Law, it IS a Soviet Show Trial.

Show Trial status has no relation to guilt of the accused, the severity of the acts or the character of the accused.

I have not proffered opinions on the guilt, innocence, factuality of evidence, or testimony of anyone involved.

Everything you write about the accused and his parents may be true and this is still a Soviet Show Trial if everyone accused as responsible doesn't get ABSOLUTE Equal Protection Under The Law.

52 posted on 12/03/2021 12:39:06 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: jstolzen
Well Done +1.

Your summary of the events supports what I'm hearing also. WJR has been nonstop all day with the latest on this story.

63 posted on 12/03/2021 12:54:43 PM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: jstolzen

This will have to play out in court.
I don’t trust the leftist news media to not twist the facts.
As it is being presented these folks supposedly had guns laying around all over the place ..with a kid who had psychiatric issues
And the father goes out on BLACK FRIDRAY and buys his screwed up kid his own gun.
And mom is yucking it up.

Interesting how we can barely get the name of some shooters for several day much less many details..yet in this case we know some very specific details.


68 posted on 12/03/2021 1:02:26 PM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down pres. Brandon!)
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To: jstolzen

Excellent post! Reading replies of defending the parents actions (for what is known), the twisting into pretzel knots of some in response to you has convinced me that even some here I’d question on any form of gun ownership. It’s obvious there are those that seek any excuse to cover for even blatantly illegal and irresponsible activities of parents to score political points.


70 posted on 12/03/2021 1:14:58 PM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: jstolzen

Just so you know the school did want him to go with the parents after the meeting...they resisted...so even though they were aware of the seriousness of the situation they still didn’t co-operate with the school in removing him.

I Personally see the step- mother as a confrontational individual.


72 posted on 12/03/2021 1:20:24 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: jstolzen

Amen.


91 posted on 12/04/2021 10:39:22 PM PST by bootless (Is life so dear or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it!)
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