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Sheriff Responds After Alec Baldwin Claims He ‘Didn’t Pull The Trigger’ In Fatal Rust Shooting
Unilad ^ | 12/2/2021 | Emily Brown

Posted on 12/02/2021 2:33:23 PM PST by marcusmaximus

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To: Tijeras_Slim

Most modern SAA clones are either hammer block or transfer bar. The Pietta Model 1873 involved in this incident specifically is a transfer bar gun. It cannot discharge if you slip the hammer but do not depress the trigger.

Pietta also makes a similar gun for another company, the Great Western II, which has a floating firing pin instead of the transfer bar.

https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1873-GWII-SA-and-Pietta-Transfer-Bar-Models-c510.htm


61 posted on 12/02/2021 4:49:10 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: EEGator

Look just above for the details.


62 posted on 12/02/2021 4:49:36 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: pfflier

“I believe it is a single action revolver. That would mean the hammer would have to be cocked to rotate the round into firing position.”

Does that mean my Ruger Single-Six could be used as a deadly weapon as well?😳


63 posted on 12/02/2021 4:51:34 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Spktyr

I dont think so on a 1890 SA


64 posted on 12/02/2021 4:53:22 PM PST by mylife (Joe Biden is like bald tires in the rain, Alec Baldwin with a gun....)
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To: Spktyr

Good thing it was not a glock :)


65 posted on 12/02/2021 4:55:15 PM PST by mylife (Joe Biden is like bald tires in the rain, Alec Baldwin with a gun....)
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To: marcusmaximus
The Santa Fe Sheriff’s Department has explained it is currently awaiting results from the FBI that would shed light on how the gun fired, whether it involved just pulling back the hammer, which hits the firing pin, just pulling the trigger, or both.

Forensics can determine that? I had no idea.

66 posted on 12/02/2021 4:56:35 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: mylife

Um, yeah, most of the industry changed that. Baldwin was not firing an original Colt but a Pietta made replica. The Pietta 1873 has a separate firing pin and a transfer bar. Here’s the parts sheet - the inset in the lower left corner shows the transfer bar system with separate firing pin and hammer. See for yourself.

http://piettausa.com/109-Transfer-Bar-Lever_p_698.html


67 posted on 12/02/2021 4:58:12 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: All

lotta liability all around


68 posted on 12/02/2021 4:58:20 PM PST by mylife (Joe Biden is like bald tires in the rain, Alec Baldwin with a gun....)
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To: marcusmaximus

It will be determined that it is a magic gun, the first of its kind, and will be destroyed to keep it from shooting someone else.


69 posted on 12/02/2021 4:58:33 PM PST by Rebelbase ( State Dept. Havana Syndrome victims: Guinea pigs of 5G/graphene oxide vax experiments?)
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To: Spktyr

I understand.


70 posted on 12/02/2021 4:59:13 PM PST by mylife (Joe Biden is like bald tires in the rain, Alec Baldwin with a gun....)
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To: gitmo

They just will function test the gun and see what ways it will fire, that’s it. :P


71 posted on 12/02/2021 5:00:25 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Thanks for the info. I have some familiarity with cowboy guns having worked at SASS End of Trail for 5 years.


72 posted on 12/02/2021 5:02:08 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Spktyr

If what you state is accurate about the gun he possessed, that doesn’t look good for him.


73 posted on 12/02/2021 5:03:50 PM PST by EEGator
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I had 1 ND in my entire life and it was a bulgarian makarov, slide locked back, I assumed it empty, racked and fired, but pointed it away from anything.

lotta liability on this one


74 posted on 12/02/2021 5:06:01 PM PST by mylife (Joe Biden is like bald tires in the rain, Alec Baldwin with a gun....)
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To: Rowdyone

I’ve been watching Yellowstone. WOW a lot of shooting there! And then there is series 24. Guns a blazing.

No reason for Baldwin to kill someone


75 posted on 12/02/2021 5:07:07 PM PST by Karoo
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To: marcusmaximus

He not only pulled the trigger but first pointed the gun at a person, then killed them.

Another leftist play actor liar. Seems to be a lot of them around.


76 posted on 12/02/2021 5:08:21 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: EEGator

No, it doesn’t look good for him, which explains why they’re slow-walking this. Anyone else would have been arrested on the spot.

The stupid part is that Pietta makes a version that can *only* fire a special .380 blank, looks identical and on screen would be indistinguishable. There really was no reason for them to have a live pistol on that set.


77 posted on 12/02/2021 5:18:39 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

The SAA replica industry started changing over to transfer bar or hammer block most notably in 1973 when Ruger came out with their New Models that incorporated transfer bars. There are still a few SAA replicas that don’t have them, but they are fairly uncommon - the supermajority of SAA-types made in the last couple decades are hammer block or transfer bar.

Unfortunately, there’s a lot of people in the SASS world that use older weapons so the newer generations wouldn’t necessarily show up in huge numbers. Movie studios, prop/weaponmasters would generally want newer pieces when available.


78 posted on 12/02/2021 5:26:40 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: marcusmaximus

One idea is that he pulled the hammer back and had his finger lightly resting on the trigger, so it went off without Baldwin exerting the force it takes to fire a modern weapon, so he didn’t realize he was shooting. But it’s just as possible that he was clowning around with a gun that he⁶e thought was unloaded.. Either way he’s still guilty — and stupid.


79 posted on 12/02/2021 5:30:43 PM PST by x
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To: Spktyr

A lot of SASS shooters are older.😀
For the rare times I give it a go I use New Model Vaqueros.


80 posted on 12/02/2021 5:40:34 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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