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To: Red Badger
Some points to consider...

From their overall numbers for that 2 and 1/2 months timeframe:

Recovered/Recovering 19582
Recovered with sequelae 520
Not recovered at the time of report 11361
Fatal 1223
Unknown 940

They need to separate "recovered" from "recovering."

"Recovering," by definition, means they haven't recovered yet.

Therefore, the number "Not recovered at the time of the report" really wasn't 11361, it was some larger number.

And, while Pfizer may have shipped out the first doses on Dec 1st (per their report here), the first dose given wasn't publicly acknowledged until December 14th, 2020: US administers 1st doses of Pfizer coronavirus vaccine.

So the timeframe for this Adverse Event report is really 10 weeks (not 3 months).

24 posted on 12/02/2021 9:36:15 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Kaiser in Northern California started its big vaccination programs on 1/31/21 with the first shot in/at their big clinics or hospitals. Herds of us went in for the shot clinics across N.California.

Then, they had a big program on 2/21/21 for the second shot program.

Here, they used Pfizer’s vaccination. I think that you had to be 65 or 70 to get the first vaccination and then the second shot.

We have a lot friends and people, we know in our age group, 80+-10 years, who got the shots. Most of the women had minor problems if any.

Some of the guys had some weird and minor reactions. I had a temporary shingles reaction around the injection site and so did a few others.

Then, our shingles vaccinations apparently kicked in and the rashes disappeared with basically no problem about the 3rd day post Pfizer shot. One friend had the classic shingles breakout around his waist line, and he made and appointment with his PC doc. By the time his appt. came around, in a few days, the rash had disappeared. They had sent pictures to his PC showing the rash and then some after the disappearing act before the cancelled appt.. The Doc actually made a house call to see how the rash had disappeared.

None of our wives had anything besides an aching arm from the shots.

This was replicated with our family members across the nation. Basically, the wives had minimal reactions and the guys our ages had some aches and pains which went away.

Some of our younger relatives got hammered with the Moderna first 2 shots and really hammered with their recent booster shot this year. One previously very healthy early 50’s guy has missed over 2 weeks of work since his first Moderna booster. GI problems, dizziness and feeling like he got ran over by an all pro football team with off and on fever. He may have gotten the real crud a year ago between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Then a he got a second and third hammering with his second Moderna and recently his booster shot.

In summary, my age group 70-80+ with manageable diseases might be the only logical and ethical group which can have the vaccination. Only, if we want it.

It is basically and probably criminal to give any of these shots to anyone under 60-65.

If they get the crud or one of the variants, treat them as out patients. One of our DNA sons in his 50’s and 2 non DNA sons, who adopted us, had the Delta this past summer. They were treated as outpatients and have had good recoveries, and they are back to work and doing things with their families.


93 posted on 12/03/2021 8:23:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Want to make America great again. Stop talking about government reform. Thanks: precisionshootistst)
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