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China will not stop at Taiwan, Australia's Foreign Minister Dutton
Australian Financial Review ^ | 11/26/21 | Andrew Tillett

Posted on 11/28/2021 4:03:14 PM PST by Aussiebabe

Defence Minister Peter Dutton has warned that all Australian major cities are within range of Chinese missiles and claims the conquest of Taiwan will be the first domino to fall in a campaign by Beijing to dominate the Indo-Pacific region.

In the most aggressive anti-China speech by an Australian minister in decades, Mr Dutton said on Friday the world could not repeat the mistakes of the 1930s when Western powers ignored the rapid militarisation of Japan and Germany.

(Excerpt) Read more at afr.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: andrewtillett; australia; ccp; china; communism; covid; dutton; germany; humanrights; indopacific; japan; laborcamps; oz; peterdutton; prc; taiwan; territory; vietnam
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To: qaz123
It just dawned on me that most Americans probably have no idea that the police forces here in Oz are of a different structure than the USA. In Australia there are no city police. Each state has its own police force controlled by that state's Premier. While this may save money compared to the USA's system of city police and a smaller state police force, it means that if you have far left Premiers like we do in Queensland and Melbourne, you get a police force that the leadership of the police are appointed by and controlled by that far-left Premier.

The Federal Police are only in Federal controlled areas like the airports and the ACT (like Washington, DC).

Our equivalent of the FBI is ASIO (Australian Security Intelligence Office)

101 posted on 11/29/2021 8:14:47 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

Your Prime Minister......So, you’re in Australia....How’s about before you run your mouth about “fascists” here in the USA, you mind your beeswax about the tyranny and internment camps you have going on down there.

On a side note....What reality do you live in? You must be one of the vaccinated and since none of this happened in front of your face, it didn’t happen at all. Typical of the Liberal Left here in the USA.

The Whole World is HORRIFIED about Australia’s Covid Tracking App ........ https://xyz.net.au/2021/09/the-whole-world-is-horrified-about-australias-covid-tracking-app/

Your government mandated a phone app for the “citizens” to track you. Awesome!!!! Do we have anything like that in the US? Nope.

Australia: Army Forcibly Throws Covid-Exposed Citizens in Quarantine Camps (Video)

https://rairfoundation.com/australia-army-forcibly-throws-covid-exposed-citizens-in-quarantine-camps-video/

The AUSTRALIAN PRIME MINISTER has deployed 28 Australian Defense Force soldiers and several army trucks to the region.

Two Northern Territory communities in Australia, Binjari and Rockhole, have imposed strict lockdowns after NINE new positive coronavirus cases were registered. The military has been called in to bring positive cases and close contacts to a quarantine center..........WOW!!!!! HOLY MOLY!!!!! The world is coming to an end. 9 people tested “positive” and their close contacts were registered in a database.

On Sunday, Chief Minister of the Northern Territory Michael Gunner said that a 78-year-old woman was treated at the Royal Darwin Hospital. The area’s remaining eight cases and 38 close contacts have been transferred to the Howard Springs quarantine center.........Human beings. Citizens of Australia being transferred to an internment camp for a virus that 99.7%, or more, people get over within a few days. Most with nothing more than Tylenol and some rest.

I know it’s hard to admit that your country is a tyrannical disaster. I can understand that. And now, your neighboring country, New Zealand is embarking on the same tyrannical methods.

Shame you folks don’t have guns to protect yourselves. But, you all decided to give them up in the name of safety.........ha ha ha ha ha ha

Good luck down under. I’m sure the American-made, possibly covid exposed, submarines will be there at some point.


102 posted on 11/30/2021 8:20:06 AM PST by qaz123
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To: Aussiebabe

And what just dawned on me.....I doubt you could find 10 people that actually care about the cops in Australia. And who has jurisdiction of who.

Your country, at the local and national level, is being governed by tyrants. All in the name of....SAFETY.


103 posted on 11/30/2021 8:22:11 AM PST by qaz123
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To: qaz123
You must be one of those gullible people who believe in everything you see on Youtube and especially on obscure sites.

The Australian government does have a tracking app, but it was never mandated, and hardly anybody used it, so it mostly abandoned now. I never saw anyone use it. I think most of the individual states have a Covid app, but to my knowledge, none are mandated, not even in Victoria.

Yes, I am vaccinated, but I strongly opposed that anyone is required to have them and opposed to all mandates and I am against young children being vaccinated. I believe that it the individual's choice to make their own health decision on whether to get vaccinated.

There has been a lot misinformation about the military's involvement and putting a few Aboriginals in quarantine facilities in the Northern Territories(NT). I could explain, but I do not believe you are the type of individual that actually reads or listens to counterpoints and it doesn't look like you are much really interested in learning about Australia. So I will try to give you just a little bit of information. The NT is a territory like Guam (especially Guam on the military presence) or Puerto Rico with little resources of it own and practically no police force. It is twice as large as Texas, but has less than 250,000 people, half living in Darwin. There is a large presence of Australia military and the USA military. There are about 75,000 aboriginals who own almost 50% of the land, and many live in squalid conditions, even though Australia has poured in Billions of dollars to support them, and they also have free medical. The reason the military was involved, is that they are already there in the NT and they do not have enough police. The quarantine facilities for the aboriginals are much better facilities than many have for their own homes, and they are only there for a few days during the quarantine. Many aboriginals are happy in living in those facilities. A disclaimer, that this recent news is from the leftist ABC: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-25/nt-covid-outbreak-michael-gunner-conspiracy-theorists-speech/100650132

As I posted many times, it is a myth that we do not have any guns. Since the restrictions were put in place around 25 years ago, we have more guns now than before legally with gun owners, and the average gun owner has twice as many guns. Yes, it is true it is almost impossible to get a semi-automatic rife, unless you are a professional hunter, but shotguns and handguns are fairly easy to obtains. I support your 2nd Amendment, and if I live in the USA with all the violence in the major cities I would buy as many as I could afford. There has never been a gun culture in Australia because we did not revolt against the British and they did not take our guns away. Very few people in the cities had guns in the first place,and most were in the hands of rural people, so there was little resistance to the restrictions as almost all rural people, like farmers and hunter, we able to keep there guns. We have small political party, called the "Shooters, Fisherman and Farmers Party" that have a few elected members and fights for their rights.

I have question for you, how long did you live in Australia and/or visited to get all your opinions?

104 posted on 11/30/2021 3:20:40 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: qaz123

Obviously you are not interested in what is really going on or you wouldn’t be making such uniformed comments.


105 posted on 11/30/2021 3:22:07 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

I have question for you, how long did you live in Australia and/or visited to get all your opinions?

To sum it up with the answer to this question.....How about Australia build its own submarines, defend itself against China when they come, and not a single Australian worry themselves about anything that happens in the United States of America.

Oh yeah, one more thing. Start learning Mandarin. Because when China comes and you think that this administration and this military is going to do anything to help, you’re living in LaLa Land..

As for all the other stuff you wrote...I skimmed right over it, paid no attention to it, and I will now be signing off. Hope you know how to use chopsticks.


106 posted on 12/01/2021 6:37:22 AM PST by qaz123
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To: Aussiebabe

I have ZERO interest to know what is going on in Australia.


107 posted on 12/01/2021 6:38:42 AM PST by qaz123
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To: qaz123
Of course you only skimmed it and didn't read it because it shows your comments about the mandated Covid tracking were not true.

And of course, I don't think the USA will defend us...the USA showed how much courage you had when you abandoned your own citizens in Afghanistan. I doubt the USA would defend your own territory of Guam.

By the way, we do build our own submarines, just haven't done the nuclear because of the unfortunate anti-nuclear culture until the recent agreement with the UK and the USA to supply nuclear subs.

108 posted on 12/01/2021 2:21:24 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

the USA showed how much courage you had when you abandoned your own citizens in Afghanistan.......Do the world a favor and don’t pretend that some Afghan refugee, that was able to finagle citizenship in the US, as a US citizen. Those people told the US that they were too scared to live there and go back there, so please let me stay in the US, fasttrack me for citizenship and let me pop out a few citizens in the process. None of which should be allowed. However, those very same people that were too scared to live there, somehow made it back there and they got stuck because they weren’t paying attention. Not a single shred of me cares about them.

Your arguments are getting to that point of....You’re stupid. No, you’re stupid. I’m gonna tell my mommy and daddy.

Earlier you brought up Youtube videos. All of them clips from NEWS AGENCIES IN YOUR COUNTRY. Clips showing Australian cops and military beating up citizens for trying to exercise freedom.

Whatever happened to the guy that was in the elevator, ALONE, without a mask and coughed? Did they ever apprehend him and put him in a quarantine camp?

BREAKING: Manhunt In Australia After Three Covid-Negative Teens Briefly Escape A Quarantine Camp ........ Three teenagers escaped the Howard Springs quarantine camp in the Northern Territory of Australia at 4:30 am on Wednesday morning by climbing the fences around the facility. The Northern Territory police immediately launched a massive manhunt, setting up checkpoints on all roads leaving the area.

The three boys aged 15, 16 and 17, are from an aboriginal community called Binjari where they were placed into the camp after being marked as close contacts of “COVID” positive cases in the area. All three had tested NEGATIVE for Covid the day before they broke out, yet police were still determined to find them.

So,they were put in a quarantine camp because of contact tracing even though they tested NEGATIVE. Awesome.

Good for the land down under. You have it going on.

But, your fellow Aussie’s are not bothered as they posted that they are in a camp and everything is free. They have free wi-fi, food and air conditioning. Ain’t that special. Hey Everyone, get on this train and everything is free when you get there. You’re not free to live your life but everything else is free.

Aussies hit back at Americans calling NT quarantine centre a ‘concentration camp’ by posting photos in bikinis - and pointing out there is ‘free wifi, nice food, and aircon’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10260599/Aussies-hit-Americans-calling-NT-quarantine-centre-concentration-camp.html

Everyone is outside, in the sun, doing what they want....WEARING A MASK THAT DOES NOT WORK....outside, in the sun, perhaps the safest place to be, but they’re still not free to leave. Awesome.

Australian Army Begins Transferring COVID-Positive Cases, Contacts to Quarantine Camps

The Australian army has begun forcibly removing residents in the Northern Territories to the Howard Springs quarantine camp located in Darwin, after nine new Covid-19 cases were identified in the community of Binjari.......WOW!!!! 9 cases and the military is there “forcibly removing residents to a quarantine camp.

Residents of Binjari and Rockhole no longer have the five reasons to leave their homes,” said Northern Territory chief minister, Michael Gunner, referring to the country’s five allowable reasons to avoid lockdown (buying food and supplies, exercising for up to two hours, care or caregiving, work or education if it can’t be done from home, and to get vaccinated at the nearest possible location)......Can’t even leave their homes to buy food.

“I contacted the Prime Minister last night. We are grateful for the support of about 20 ADF personnel, as well as army trucks to assist with the transfer of positive cases and close contacts.....but don’t worry, if you test positive you’re not mature or smart enough to deal with it yourself and even if you don’t have but contact tracing determines that you were near someone, off to the gulag with you. At the point of a gun, I might add.

And are you saying that there was NO government approved covid tracking app? If not, what is COVIDSafe and why was it approved by your government to be used for contact tracing?

Good luck down there.


109 posted on 12/01/2021 2:52:08 PM PST by qaz123
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To: qaz123
You know, you should do just a little bit of research. From another thread on the problems in the Northern Territory.

It says why in the article: “The facility is housing people affected by the Katherine region COVID-19 outbreak as well as returned travellers from repatriation flights, including a man who tested positive for the Omicron variant on Monday.”

The facilities were originally built in 2012 to house 3500 temporary Japanese oil and gas construction workers through 2018 for the giant Impex project. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-29/inpex-legacy-riding-boom-avoiding-bust-nt-economy/10236158

When the project was finished the Japanese gave the facilities to the Northern Territory in 2019. Now on the average with returning Aussies from overseas and housing the few aboriginals, it has on the average only 600 people. The overview of the large site, makes it look like it holds many people (it can), but that because it was first built for the 3500 Japanese, but at the peak of construction there were 8000 (only 1000 were local) workers who had to be housed and it was expanded.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/04/beyond-marketing-cliches-inside-howard-springs-quarantine-centre-i-find-shel

You might not like the policy, but Australians returning to Australia had to spend 14 days in quarantine. In the past, they were put up in hotels in the downtown cities (some states are still doing it). It didn't work very well, as many of the workers at the hotels got the Covid, so they started bringing some overseas to the facilities in the Northern Territory to house these people.

https://coronavirus.nt.gov.au/travel/quarantine/mandatory-supervised-quarantine

They normally just stay for 14 days. The facilities are fairly basic, but clean and in most cases, much better than where some of the aboriginals live in squalid conditions(their own choice) in the NT. This story in the Washington Post (I know, a very lefty media site), tells the story of an Aussie returning home and his experiences staying there for the 14 days. It shows what the rooms and food look like. They are hardly concentration camps.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/australia-darwin-covid-quarantine/2021/05/21/f72bc0ac-ad1b-11eb-82c1-896aca955bb9_story.html It a bit outdated from May, because now all Aussies can come home and I believe the borders are open to all on December 15th.

Again, you might not like the policy, but this article explains why the few aboriginals from one community were moved to the same facilities where the returning Aussies were in quarantine.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-21/nt-explainer-on-new-cases-in-binjari-and-rockhole/100638192
Many of the aboriginals liked living there, but should only be there for 14 days, unless the outbreak continues.
https://aecom.com/projects/manigurr-ma-village/ere

is a short article about the construction

If you don't care about Australia why do you keep posting such wacky stuff about it?

110 posted on 12/01/2021 3:00:42 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

These are articles and sources from your country or people doing reports from your country.

Are you saying that everyone is lying but you?

You give propaganda a new definition.

Simple....Your Prime Minister authorized and sent in troops to remove people from their homes and put them in quarantine camps. Some of those people posted selfies sunbathing and doing yoga, from the QUARANTINE CAMP. Nothing more needs to be said. No amount of sugar can coat the fact that YOUR government is pulling people from their homes and placing them in a camp, against their will.


111 posted on 12/01/2021 3:04:10 PM PST by qaz123
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To: qaz123

No they are all not, one is from the UK, anther is from the USA. You probably didn’t even read them, of course.


112 posted on 12/01/2021 5:57:41 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

I truly do not care. But you’re response says it all. They’re not all from Australia. Meaning some are. And they’re reporting/showing an elderly woman being thrown to the ground and pepper sprayed by your cops.

Another Australian posted that what is being said about Australia is all Chinese Propaganda. And that each territory or whatever you call them is governed differently. Hmmmm....sounds a little like the whole, states rights here in the US. I digress.

Let me spell it out for you one more time.....YOUR PRIME MINISTER,THE ONE THAT YOU SAY DOESN’T HAVE CONTROL OVER THE TERRITORIES, AUTHORIZED THE AUSTRALIAN MILITARY TO REMOVE PEOPLE FROM THEIR HOMES IF THEY TESTED POSITIVE AND/OR IF THEY WERE IN CONTACT WITH SOMEONE, EVEN IF THEY THEMSELVES ARE NEGATIVE.....THE POLICE TREATED 3 TEENAGERS, WHO TESTED NEGATIVE, LIKE THEY WERE 3 MURDERERS WHO ESCAPED FROM DEATH ROW.

All for safety.....Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!

All for safety for a “virus” that 99.7% of those who test positive, get over it with no problem. And to think, NINE people came down with it(??) and that is what was done.

If you had a PM with gonads he’d be in the territory demanding that the folks running it, STOP. But he doesn’t. Why? Because he’s a Globalist stooge that would love to do the same to the entire country.

You should really not worry about what we, here in America, think or say about the Land Down Under. We both have our own problems.


113 posted on 12/01/2021 9:07:39 PM PST by qaz123
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To: qaz123
Sorry, you do know much about our Prime Minister. He is very conservative, but too weak in not standing up to the leftist media. He was, and still is a good friend of Donald Trump. He is not a globalist. The left here in Oz, hates him. If I didn't know better, the way you talk about him, I would think you were a far leftie. Unfortunately , the Labor and Green Parties are combining to oust him in the soon to come federal election and the you will legitimately be able to complain about a far left globalist/socialist Aussie government.
114 posted on 12/01/2021 10:23:56 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe
What camps?

Teenagers from remote NT community arrested after escape from Howard Springs COVID quarantine facility

Those camps.

115 posted on 12/02/2021 8:38:48 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Aussiebabe

Down Under could benefit from a 2nd Amendment.


116 posted on 12/02/2021 12:13:36 PM PST by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: Paladin2
I don't disagree, but there is no demand by the people for one. We have never had the high crime rates in the cities that you have in the USA, so there is no culture of owning guns, except by rural people like farmers and hunters. These groups kept their guns, so no demand from the rural people. The “Shooter, Fishers and Farmers” party mainly fights to keep the restrictions from getting tougher.

I understand the gun culture in the USA, as I wrote previously, if I lived in the USA, I would have as many guns as I could afford, but I am not a hunter.

117 posted on 12/02/2021 1:17:20 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Navy Patriot
Not a camp, did you read my post about how these were constructed in 2012 for 3500 oil and gas construction workers and expanded 7000 and given by the Japanese to the Northern Territory in 2019. There are only about 600 on average there, usually for only 14 days, most by their own free will. The facilities are much nicer than what the average aboriginal people have in the NT. The USA is making a beat up of this issue, so you don't feel bad about how truly bad things are in the USA on human rights, such as locking people up in solitary confinement, little representation, cannot talk to their families and then given ridiculous sentences just for trespassing. Also, sending the Federal Police to investigate parents for complaining as School Board meetings and calling them “domestic terrorist”. That is truly frightening. Seems like the even the conservatives have forgotten those poor people locked up in Washington DC. We both have our problems.
118 posted on 12/02/2021 1:26:16 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

Your Prime Minister authorized and sent the Australian Military to remove people from their homes because they had the flu and anyone that had contact with them or may have had contact with them were removed, too.

Australian citizens were beaten and pepper sprayed by your police officers. Video courtesy Australian news outlets.

So it comes down to 2 things: your Conservative Prime Minister is as weak and spineless as they come and isn’t willing to stand up to the tyrants that are in leadership in your territories....or....he’s perfectly ok with all of it.

I’m not complaining about your country. What happens in your country does not effect my life one single iota. I really do not care.


119 posted on 12/02/2021 3:36:48 PM PST by qaz123
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To: nathanbedford

Dead on.


120 posted on 12/02/2021 4:01:40 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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