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To: Mr Rogers
They were not cops. They were not wearing badges and uniforms. We are required to surrender to COPS. We are not required to surrender to assholes running around with guns threatening to blow our heads off!

So they weren't cops, but they were within a reasonable interpretation of Georgia law to do exactly what they did.

Absolute HOGWASH! If you pursue someone and are the aggressor, you lose the right to self-defense. You can’t race after someone, threaten to blow their head off, and then whine, “But he fought back!”

Words versus actions. You can't "assault" someone with words. You have to physically do something to them. They clearly had no intention of shooting him else they would have done so as he was running up to the truck. I imagine the father is a decent shot having been a police officer for 20 years.

Those guys were and are pathetic, racist assholes who give those of us who carry a bad name. I’m ashamed white guys acted like that.

You are making it a racial thing. I am happy when white crooks get shot too. As a matter of fact, if Arbery was white, this case would have been dropped and charges would never have been filed at all.

I think a lot of Freepers immediately make this into a racial thing, and then they want to virtue signal by condemning these guys for doing something that would not bother them at all had they did it to a white guy.

What they are really saying is "I want everyone to see how non racist I am!" That's the vibe i'm getting.

Me? I try to see everything objectively. The guy was a crook who got shot when he attacked a man with a gun. Case closed.

It is called the law. I can defend myself in my home and I can defend my home against an intruder, but I don’t get to impose the death penalty on a crime that doesn’t CARRY the death penalty!

Mens rea.

No intent.

I hope YOU don’t CCW because if you do and you act out what you say, your butt will go to prison.

I don't carry a gun, and I mostly live in an area and in a manner where I usually don't have to worry about violent crime. Perhaps I should be more cautious and at least keep one nearby, but so far i've seen no likely threat to my peace and tranquility.

171 posted on 11/23/2021 5:28:04 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

“You can’t “assault” someone with words.”

You do too. You INNITIATE a reasonable fear of death when you grab a gun and shout, “I’m going to blow your head off!” He doesn’t need to wait for you to start shooting! And following someone in a truck and threatening them - very expressly threatening to blow their head off - is more than enough to make you “The Aggressor” - who then has no right to “self-defense”!

“if Arbery was white, this case would have been dropped”

I’m white, and I sure as hell hope it wouldn’t be dropped if it happened to me!

“I think a lot of Freepers immediately make this into a racial thing”

I think you want to make it “The South is Always Right” thing. My daughter moved to Georgia 3 years ago. It took her a long time to find a church in part, she said, because there was open racism in many churches. Which shocked her, having been raised in Baptist churches in the western USA.

You think if three blacks had chased down and killed a white guy that no one in Georgia would have blinked? Not buying that.

“No intent.”

That will be for the jury to decide. I think Ahmaud Arbery had TONS of reason to fear for his life based on the words and actions of three men. He had the right of self-defense and they lost theirs when they started chasing someone who had committed no crime that they knew of!


175 posted on 11/23/2021 6:10:51 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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