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Jury begins deliberations in Ahmaud Arbery murder case
NY Post ^ | 11/23/2021 | Jackie Salo

Posted on 11/23/2021 9:18:55 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: DoodleDawg

In prison, they’re the n******.


61 posted on 11/23/2021 10:33:52 AM PST by EEGator
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“These guys guilty?”

As a technical matter of law....maybe, maybe not. Haven’t followed the trial closely but read Legal Insurrection articles on it. I think these bastards ought to fry, but Georgia used to have a law that MIGHT make their actions legal. If I was on the jury, they’d be in big trouble. Killing someone after you provoke a fight and threaten their life...then I’m not sure I care about “technical” points of law!


62 posted on 11/23/2021 10:36:02 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: suthener

Unlike you, I’m not willing to kill someone over “trespassing” on a construction site.


63 posted on 11/23/2021 10:37:58 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: EEGator

“Not rot in prison over a hammer.”

I think the overall situation was a bit more than stealing a hammer but, okay.


64 posted on 11/23/2021 10:40:30 AM PST by suthener ( )
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To: Yo-Yo
'This was the "innocent jogger" carrying a hammer case from February 2020.'

You've gone full Binger. That is a video artifact. There was no stealing on film from the dude nor did he have a hammer.

65 posted on 11/23/2021 10:41:21 AM PST by Theoria
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To: Mr Rogers; EEGator

“Unlike you, I’m not willing to kill someone over “trespassing” on a construction site.”

If you guys think this was about stealing a hammer, or trespassing on a construction sight, you are believing the main stream press. Do some research, watch the trial. The situation was not what you think.


66 posted on 11/23/2021 10:43:55 AM PST by suthener ( )
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
Ummm put my hands up and surrender. They said he was under arrest.

They did not identify themselves as police officers or tell Arbery what they wanted. The only comment we know for sure, from the statement the McMichael's made to the police and which was confirmed by the younger McMichael on the stand, was made by the elder McMichael and that was an order to stop or he would blow Arbery's head off.

Wanna guess how that would have turned out? Who the hell grabs the barrel of a shotgun anyways?

Someone in fear of their life and desperate enough to try it.

67 posted on 11/23/2021 10:45:13 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: suthener
I guess most people are willing to let criminals run rampant in their neighborhoods when the police can’t or won’t stop them.

Arbery's crime being what exactly?

68 posted on 11/23/2021 10:46:53 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: suthener

“The situation was not what you think.”

So what is the situation?


69 posted on 11/23/2021 10:51:30 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Yes, the black guy grabbed the barrel of the shotgun. That’s because the guy holding the shotgun pointed it at him with the intention of holding him against his will.


70 posted on 11/23/2021 10:51:31 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I was responding as to how they could try to claim self defense to the other poster.
I’m not defending them. The whole situation should not have occurred.


71 posted on 11/23/2021 10:52:40 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Theoria
At least that's my recollection of the gist of the matter.

What I wrote was based on what I recalled from the case based on dozens if not hundreds of threads in early 2020 on this incident.

I was too busy following the Rittenhouse trial to bother trying to follow the case against these three losers.

you are correct, what was initially reported here on FR was incorrect - Arbery had no hammer, he wasn't "jogging" in work boots, and he didn't steal from the construction site.

And without going back to search for my comments, I hope I was getting flamed constantly for voicing the opinion that the McMichaels should go to jail for manslaughter at minimum.

72 posted on 11/23/2021 10:53:51 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: DoodleDawg

“Arbery’s crime being what exactly?”

I’m not going to do your research. You’re believing everything you read and hear on the mainstream news. What I’m seeing here from you and others is the equivalent of people still believing Kyle shot black people. Do you have any idea of what was happening in that neighborhood? If not, why do I know and you do not?


73 posted on 11/23/2021 10:54:52 AM PST by suthener ( )
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To: absalom01
I don't think any error in the citizens arrest statue ultimately matters. Neither trespassing nor stealing a hammer is a felony, and any prior thefts would not have been within the immediate knowledge or presence of the defendants anyway.

Also, the right to arrest does not include the right to use or threatened to use deadly force for the commission of a non-violent crime. So, while the defendants arguably would have had the right to go up to Arbery and simply grab him, they never had the right to point a gun at him to compel him to stay in their custody.

Harmless error on the instruction.

74 posted on 11/23/2021 10:58:25 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Yo-Yo
I apologize if I came across as disrespectful. You have shown to be respectful throughout such discussions.


75 posted on 11/23/2021 11:00:02 AM PST by Theoria
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To: suthener
I've read the articles on Legal Insurrection. Haven't seen anything on the media. They had very little justification for believing he had stolen anything, and I have NO USE FOR BUTTHEADS who decide to chase down and threaten to kill someone - "Stop...I’ll blow your fucking head off" - if they don't have first hand knowledge of a violent crime like rape or murder.
76 posted on 11/23/2021 11:00:22 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: EEGator

“So what is the situation?”

You have such a strong opinion about the case but you don’t know what was going on? Really?


77 posted on 11/23/2021 11:01:17 AM PST by suthener ( )
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To: suthener

You said I don’t know, you jackass.


78 posted on 11/23/2021 11:02:49 AM PST by EEGator
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Absolutely not. Self defense. Watch the video and you’ll see that Arbery attacks the guy with the shotgun.


79 posted on 11/23/2021 11:03:20 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: libertylover

He had a right to try to disarm the guy who pointed the shotgun at him.


80 posted on 11/23/2021 11:10:37 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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