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To: Cboldt
Anybody in the public has the right to use deadly force against an active shooter,

Unless the person is there for some nefarious, criminal reason, such as looting, rioting or arson. They would not be entitled to self defense claims at that point, from what I understand of the law in Wisconsin. Basically, if I rob a store or commit other criminal acts, and the store clerk pulls a gun so I shoot him/her, I couldn't claim self defense.

459 posted on 11/18/2021 1:55:38 PM PST by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: dware

Self defense is a fact intensive inquiry.

True, if you are immediately engaged in a criminal act, your self defense claim is at least weakened if not barred. But you can resist being killed for shoplifting.

The general principles are force is to be proportional, and deadly force ONLY if there is reasonable apprehension of serious injury, death, or rape.

The rioters have about the same right to self defense, most of the time, while they are milling about, as the good guys.


462 posted on 11/18/2021 2:00:58 PM PST by Cboldt
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