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Employers will be Liable
The Market Ticker ^ | Oct 20, 2021 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 11/06/2021 6:18:51 AM PDT by motoman

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To: DoodleBob

“Assuming this thing isn’t litigated and delayed for months, why not instead promote the the testing option whereby employees do NOT need to get a shot in Paragraph G of this monstrosity.”

Let’s now try and imagine the logistical cluster that would ensue:

Who will do the testing? Employers are not planning to cover the testing on site or cover the costs.

Will there be adequate testing capacity? There will be floods of people trying to hold on to their jobs frantically trying to obtain a test every 7 days. (Unreasonable and unattainable accomodation). Employees should and will file lawsuits against employers.

If rapid home tests are allowed, will these test kits even be available (think run on toilet paper)?

When the demand for testing cost skyrocket out of control and make it impossible for employees to afford testing (either via clinics or home tests) assuming they even have access every 7 days, how can the mandate stand.(unreasonable and unattainable accommodation). Employee should and will file lawsuits against employers.

Is this a good time to buy home rapid test company stock?

BTW - My sense is that this moronic mandate is going to be at minimum tied up in the courts and probably struck down entirely.

I personally believe this is all about scaring as many people into getting jabbed before this mandate gets permanently blocked.

Joe Biden is a special kind of evil, moronic imbecile along with the rest of his administration. They really believe they’re going to score a big “end to Covid”victory through these unsafe and an effective injection.


21 posted on 11/06/2021 7:08:32 AM PDT by motoman
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To: motoman

It holds no water. They’ve already been told by the Feds they’ll be compensated in the unlikely event some court holds them liable.


22 posted on 11/06/2021 7:11:37 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: motoman

“… unsafe and ineffective injections.”


23 posted on 11/06/2021 7:12:23 AM PDT by motoman
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To: motoman

“… unsafe and ineffective injections.”


24 posted on 11/06/2021 7:12:26 AM PDT by motoman
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To: motoman

And I believe that no court will ever decide in favor of the vaxxed. It seems like people in power around this covid and their response to it has a eerie demonic display.


25 posted on 11/06/2021 7:15:36 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: TexasGunLover

“It holds no water. They’ve already been told by the Feds they’ll be compensated in the unlikely event some court holds them liable.”

Well that settles any liability for these employers. The prep act is on the books. But don’t worry this government
“says” they’ll cover any liability. Because we should always trust what this government “says”, right? Gotcha.


26 posted on 11/06/2021 7:19:09 AM PDT by motoman
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To: kvanbrunt2

“ And I believe that no court will ever decide in favor of the vaxxed. It seems like people in power around this covid and their response to it has a eerie demonic display.”

Even if that was somehow correct employers are now going to be exposed to endless lawsuits and crushing legal costs. One way or another they’re going to eat this and it may be their complete undoing.


27 posted on 11/06/2021 7:23:34 AM PDT by motoman
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28 posted on 11/06/2021 7:23:52 AM PDT by knarf (?<p>Little kids grow up to be adults that get into powerful positions and act out their thoughts.<pg)
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To: DoodleBob; Dutch Boy; WMarshal

Not much of an escape hatch. Who wants to be jabbed up the nose every week? Every once in a while, a person gets jabbed too hard and brain fluid leaks out the nose. Also, they are going to force the “jabbee” to pay for these weekly tests. These workers will also be segregated from the vaxxed and forced to wear masks. It’s tyranny.


31 posted on 11/06/2021 7:26:42 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“A good politician is quite as unthinkable as an honest burglar.” ~ H.L. Mencken)
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To: motoman

If my other job offer falls through and I’m forced to participate in an experimental drug trial... If anything goes wrong I am leaving instructions with my family that they are to find the nastiest, shyster lawyer and sue: my doctor, for refusing to sign a medical waiver in spite of me presenting ample, more than reasonable evidence I am at elevated risk for serious side effects. The medical practice my doctor belongs to, synthetic have obviously made it policy to have their doctors ignore what is best for their patients and instead toe the company line. The president of my company, the one who failed to show any leadership in standing up to an illegal mandate and instead negligently coerced every into an experimental treatment. My family is to sue all 3 people or entities not just for my loss but also for punitive damages - in other words legally enough money to make them feel the pain and not do this again. I figure that is at about the 100 million mark for a doctor with malpractice insurance. Maybe 500 million for the medical group, and at least 1, maybe 2 billion for my company. They are to make the cases as ugly and public as possible.


32 posted on 11/06/2021 7:27:10 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: Dutch Boy

Even the testing option is going to be a complete impossibility under this mandate.

If the country continues to crumble under the self induced suicide of this mandate, there will probably be such a national uprising that will end up resulting in the complete undoing of this mandate.


33 posted on 11/06/2021 7:29:58 AM PDT by motoman
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To: motoman

Liability or not will come from court decisions.

Employers who mandate vaccine will likely be found to have reasonably relied on directions from the government. End of case.

If the vaccine is “too risky,” that is not something the employers have the expertise to know - unlike giving directions on “how to do the job,” in this case they are following the law (not technically, but close enough for court/government work).

And especially so when failure to mandate results in a fine. The employer’s choice is between following the regulation or being fined by the government.

Employer found liable for following the regulations? Generally not. Air bags were made strong enough to kill - the strength was mandated by the government. Air bag designers did not have a choice, only a vice, and using the voice is pretty much a waste of air.

Government is evil - simple as that.


34 posted on 11/06/2021 7:31:00 AM PDT by Cboldt
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I said this a long time ago here on FR. Big Pharma has immunity for the vaccines, but big employers DO NOT. Vaccine Mandates simply push the liability for damages the vaccines cause ONTO EMPLOYERS. I don't even have to read the article to know that. Everyone on here who retains their critical thinking skills already knew this.

Any employer more than 100 employees will be on the hook for REQUIRING the vaccine to have a job. Period. Full stop.

There is NOTHING in the immunity that Big Pharma received that extends to large employers with more than 100 employees.

None of this is rocket science here folks. This is how they (the Democrats and big Government Republicans) destroy big corporations here in America and will nationalize/socialize them.)

This IS the hill to die on: Mandatory Vaccines for Jobs.

Full disclosure: I had the J&J vaccine due to being immunocompromised. I fully support those who choose NOT to get the jab. We either have full bodily autonomy (our bodies are ours, NOT the governments) or we lose our right to self determination and the country.

The great resignation is coming over this issue, and I'll be resigning when it happens. I'm 59. I don't need to work anymore. Eff 'em.

If the dumbasses in this government and big companies think there's supply chain issues now, just you wait. I hope y'all are stocking up on food like I am.

35 posted on 11/06/2021 7:32:48 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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You think hiding behind OSHA -- or the threat to issue a mandate by the government -- in some way prevents you from being liable for injuries and/or deaths related to the vaccines?

Yes, they do.

And they are probably correct in that belief. as far as legal actions are concerned. Government officials want these "mandates" enforced regardless of any laws to the contrary. If the Courts rule to obstruct enforcement, the Government will simply change the "laws". And they can keep adverse Court rulings on appeal for decades, until all the original complainants have died and the case is moot.

Corporate executives should be more concerned with extra-judicial retributions exacted by the surviving family members and relatives of persons injured by the "mandated" mRNA treatments.

That pilot who just lost his license because of a newly discovered cardiac problem after taking the required mRNA treatment? He is is done. That parent, whose 19-year old athletic son just dropped dead from a stroke, two weeks after taking the required mRNA treatment required by the college? That parent is done.

Lawsuits are not what they will be thinking about.

It has been said; "After the first one, all the rest are free". For an increasing number of people, who have lost everything of importance in their lives, even the "first one" will be free.

36 posted on 11/06/2021 7:34:59 AM PDT by flamberge (Everybody knows that the dice are loaded)
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To: TexasGunLover
It holds no water. They’ve already been told by the Feds they’ll be compensated in the unlikely event some court holds them liable.

Where have you seen this? Do you have a link? I'd appreciate it.

37 posted on 11/06/2021 7:35:04 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Pining_4_TX

You’re right. The employee did not make up this mandate. The government did and the employer went along with it. Now the employee must somehow comply with a mandate that is not logistically possible. This mandate is pure bullshit. It’s not real. It will never happen. It can’t happen because it’s not possible. It’s all about scaring as many people as possible into getting the injection. Why? Because the moron in chief believes that he is going to score some historic political victory by ending Covid through these unsafe and ineffective injections. Not working in Israel. Not working in the UK. Not working in Vermont. Not working in Ireland. Not going to work here.


38 posted on 11/06/2021 7:36:58 AM PDT by motoman
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To: Dutch Boy

WHO pays for such tests?????


39 posted on 11/06/2021 7:37:26 AM PDT by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: motoman
-- .... employers are now going to be exposed to endless lawsuits and crushing legal costs. --

I don't think so. The defense is simple. The general rule is that employers are immune from suit. This is the quid pro quo for workers comp where "injured on the job is compensated, no questions asked."

I'm not saying there won't be lawsuits, only that the cost will be modest/tolerable to the employer. Cheaper to defend the suit than pay the fine, that's for sure. Any extra cost, just pass on to the customers.

40 posted on 11/06/2021 7:37:37 AM PDT by Cboldt
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