What The Baldwin Mishap Says About Guns Isn’t What You Might Think

The Federalist ^ | October 29, 2021 | Mark Overstreet

[HYPOCRACY]

Mishap? No need to read.

[Carl Vehse]

If the Demonicrats and Enemedia can use the killing of Halyna Hutchins to weaken or destroy the Second Amendment, they’ll throw Baldwin under the bus without a second thought.

[Yo-Yo]

Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz, who normally gadflies on topics more within his area of expertise, knee-jerked, “What is needed now is a clear law that categorically prohibits any real gun or real bullet from being used on a film set.”

If we banned real helicopters from movie sets, Vic Morrow might still be alive.

What a stupid solution to a human error problem.

[JusPasenThru]

Maybe you should. It’s a good article.

[jimbug]

Notice that from the beginning of this tragedy the use of the phrase “prop gun”. My guess is that this was a fully-functioning revolver, probably a replica and possibly an authentic period piece that was used that fired live ammo. The fact that it was a ‘prop’ on a movie set does not discredit its functionality.

[nickcarraway]

I think all children should have firearms education. This in this incident only makes me think that more.

[.44 Special]

What a piece of tripe!

[Seruzawa]

I noted that earlier. They use the term “prop” gun to try to lessen the responsibility of Baldwin and the crew. It was not any special sort of gun. It was a generic Colt Peacemaker clone. People might think that a prop gun is some sort of special weapon and that therefore this was just a tragic accident. Nope. It was a real gun. And Baldwin and the Armorer are criminally negligent. They are lucky they have a Soros Prosecutor to help them out. That and the special dispensation that actors and movie companies seem to get from LEs.

[gloryblaze]

I recently had occasion to drive with a good friend in the passenger seat, who had not ridden with me at the wheel before before. At every stop, she announced “It’s clear.” Well, I told her to sit back straight so I could see for myself. There are just some times when one can’t take someone else’s word.

[Lisbon1940]

Says Chekhov was right about Act 1 and Act 3.

[Avalon Memories]

This is the type of revolver used by Baldwin in the fatal incident. It is a Colt 45 long barrel replica.

It's so easy to check the cylinder and barrel of a revolver to see if it's loaded and, if yes, with what type of cartridges. There is zero excuse why Baldwin did not take literally a minute to check the firearm. Although others in the gun's chain of custody were also negligent, as the last person to handle the gun and only person to fire it, Baldwin bears the lion's share of responsibility. Also, if that set was as undisciplined as has been reported, Baldwin bears responsibility as a producer, meaning management.

[Who is John Galt?]

If we banned real helicopters from movie sets, Vic Morrow might still be alive.
What a stupid solution to a human error problem.

Probably should ban real cars, while they're at it - numerous professional drivers have been killed or crippled doing movie stunts. Oh, and ban electricity on movie sets also, to prevent electrocutions...

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

“That firearm was a F.lli Pietta long Colt 45 revolver,”

https://www.koat.com/article/gun-used-rust-movie-santa-fe-alec-baldwin-safety-halyna-hutchins-deadly-shooting-tragic-albuquerque/38085703

[bobbo666]

“inspection follow its course” means it will be ignored after a few weeks. Like Smollett.
Yeah, I know the trial is on-going. So what? He’s black and a friend of the Obama’s. Nothing will happen.

[precisionshootist]

"Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz, who normally gadflies on topics more within his area of expertise, knee-jerked, “What is needed now is a clear law that categorically prohibits any real gun or real bullet from being used on a film set.”"

This is a perfect example of why liberals should NEVER be in charge of anything. Following his advice would eventually lead to no movies being made at all. In fact why not just ban movies outright. So many people die making them in all sorts of accidents. Just ban them. Books are much safer. Well we need to specify what books are safe and ban all the others.

Leftists are the problem, always.

[precisionshootist]

"It's so easy to check the cylinder and barrel of a revolver to see if it's loaded and, if yes, with what type of cartridges."

Please stop with this stuff. Safety with firearms on a movie set has little to do with gun safety in the real world. The truth be known even most pontificating firearms instructors have little to no knowledge of movie industry modified firearms and the highly specialized blanks that are used in filming. The best live fire instructors in the country would not know where to begin trying to keep actors safe on a Hollywood action film set and still be able to make a movie.

Can you imagine a set armorer handing a revolver loaded with blanks and waiting for Jessica Alba to check the condition and check the loading is of proper blank ammunition? What about an MP5 SMG? This would only introduce more danger.

Thousands of movies have been made with countless uses of real firearms while accidents have been extremely rare. In fact Hollywoods safety record with firearms on movie sets is far better than real shooters and live ranges.

2nd amendment supporters in my opinion would be far better off not commenting on this incident and letting the investigation play out.

[Graybeard58]

Negligent manslaughter, case closed.

[Graybeard58]

I recently had occasion to drive with a good friend in the passenger seat, who had not ridden with me at the wheel before before. At every stop, she announced “It’s clear.” Well, I told her to sit back straight so I could see for myself. There are just some times when one can’t take someone else’s word.

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Major pet peeve! I absolutely hate it when a passenger says that. If I get creamed in an accident I want it to be either the other drivers fault or my own, not a passenger in my car.

[Robert357]

A good article, but it didn’t emphasize a few things it should have.

First, what happened was a negligent discharge. There was no accident.

Second, a very important firearm safety rule is to assume all firearms are loaded and how you should transfer a firearm from your possession to that of another person. Anytime you hand a firearm to someone, you should open the action to insure that the firearm is unloaded. You should then make sure that the person receiving the firearm also inspects it.

Lastly, the person receiving a firearm should examine it to insure it is loaded with the correct ammunition.

Ideally, the single action revolver would have been handed to Baldwin in an unloaded condition. Then blank ammo would have been handed to him. Alternately he should have at least witnessed it being loaded with “blanks.”