Posted on 10/25/2021 8:50:21 PM PDT by DeweyCA
That’s funny. I’m alienated by churches that push racial justice, gender equity, immigration rights, income inequality and gun control. There is no shortage of churches like that the Woke serfs could join.
That’s funny. I’m alienated by churches that push racial justice, gender equity, immigration rights, income inequality and gun control. There is no shortage of churches like that the Woke serfs could join.
https://prophecywatchers.com/videos/ken-johnson-the-rapture-in-the-dead-sea-scrolls/
Ken Johnson is an excellent scholar and is translating the Aramaic from the newest scrolls released.
“Why bother attending. “
You realize this yet you are still there.
Why?
You can cut to minute 21:31 to get the starting jist on the Essenes aned Messiah prophesied by the Zdok Priests of the Essenes.
I figured you’d direct me to this video. I’ve seen this already after someone directed me there. He doesn’t cite where in the DSS or Enoch this supposed rapture of Christian believers appears, he simply states it as a fact. I don’t take people’s word for things like this and you shouldn’t either; I need to see the exact text from the DSS themselves. I can read it for myself and judge accordingly. Thanks.
I think the young people are fooling themselves with those rationalizations.
I was raised Catholic in the 50s, which many Catholics feel was a kind of Golden Age for the American Catholic Church. But there was already a drift away from the simple, unquestioning, immigrant-rooted faith. Many parents observed the outward rituals, but focused on material success rather then spiritual values. They eschewed contraception, but severely limited their family size using the rhythm method for financial reasons. They went along with segregation and felt no guilt for breaking tax laws. Their children were aware of the hypocrisy, and took it as a signal that religious laws weren’t really important.
Each generation just moved farther away from belief, and literally moving farther away meant there was no family or community remonstrance for falling away.
The young people being polled are the grandchildren, or even great-grandchildren of those 50s Catholics who outwardly appeared so committed to the Church. But it was inevitable that the various compromises made to do well in a secular, consumer, society would result in people who practice vague, smorgasbord, spirituality.
Article states.....”Half of young people ages 13 to 25 surveyed said they don’t think that religious institutions care as much as they do about issues that matter deeply to them”......
Nothing new about that.....they’re all in the “it’s all about ME” generations”....
Here is Ken Johnson’s more complete translation than the Charles translation of Enoch. I cannot do your homeowrk for you just to have you dismiss because you do not want to see: https://books.google.com/books/about/Ancient_Book_of_Enoch.html?id=tKS2NAEACAAJ
Sorry for typos, I ma having lots of trouble with my new cataract surgery lenses.
I’m not trying to get you to “do my homework.” You made a claim about a certain text and I asked you to provide the text. You were unable to do so. That’s OK. This just confirms my assertion. You are free to believe it on the basis of third hand testimony, but please try to refrain from from making unsupported claims that can be easily dismissed. It makes us Christians look bad. Have a blessed night.
all im saying it wasn’t that way when i was a child going to church- noone talked about any of the crap the kids are today apparently- none of that stuff was on our minds- we didn’t obsess about race, gun control, climate change, lgbtq- none of it=- we had fun
exactly- the church we were in was a hell-fire and damnation church- it didn’t water down the gospels to make it palatable to people living in sin-
Well you are right about that. But that was a time when kids minds and bodies were protected. Todays society does not protect children rather it indoctrinates them.
Young people looking for a faux-religious place to dwell while they gradually divest themselves if the last vestiges of religious faith and Mount the diving board into full-blown atheism and satanism will complain in the manner suggested by this author. No potential “long term hire” for, fir example, the One True Faith, behaves in this way. Only false religions seek to make themselves attractive in a “surface” or facile way in the eyes of such people. To borrow an old-fashioned phrase: It’s akin to a prostitute showing some leg to a potential john. Where is the effort to turn they eyes of such a person heavenward?
Young people today need help developing their bullshiite detectors.
matt04: “Why bother attending. “
A strike: “You realize this yet you are still there. Why?”
You have touched on a very salient point A strike.
Many have simply given up on God according to their human experience.
Does anyone who has been disillusioned look for Biblical orthodoxy (search criteria)?
Or, do they just throw-up their hands and say they are fed-up with the [secular] direction of the |Church| ?
A strike! ...look around and find a community (koinonia] that teaches what YOU believe, not what they [that group] \think\ you should believe.
Are you directing the last sentence in your post to me or to Matt04 ??
To you and everyone else watching.
It is NOT a call for “unitarianism” but is a call to trust in your soul.
if you have been properly informed, then the conclusion is evident.
If that is NOT the God of the Bible, so be it...
\I\ cannot convince you of any other.
Just to be clear, what in my post 44 gave you the impression that i was referring to myself when I posed the question to Matt04 ?
You may need to read/comprehend/think more clearly.
While churches are certainly a strong guiding influence on the culture, their primary purpose is personal - at least Christian churches ought to be personal. The purpose of a church is to install the history of Christianity,but most important, to develop a personal relationship between the congregation members with their Lord, Jesus Christ. Group charity and other acts of mercy are good, but nothing compares to the development of a personal relationship with Christ.
Just my humble opinion.
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