You said they had a breeding program. They did not.
I know that. To put it another way, I don't see how that fugitive clause and slavery in general weren't unconstitutional.
You said the primary difference between the Confederate Constitution and the US Constitution was the protection of slavery. That was false. They did not materially differ on protections of slavery.
There was nothing to clear up unless it took you this long to understand that not everyone in the North was among the good guys, which I have pointed out to you numerious times on this thread. About the only thing I've posted to you more often is "repeat snipped".
Its not only that not everyone in the North was among the abolitionists, its that almost nobody was.
Five Union states ratified it, so the idea that the rest didn't have enough time to ratify it before the South rejected it is just plain wrong.
No its not. It takes time to ratify a constitutional amendment. Look how long some states have taken before ratifying various constitutional amendments.
I haven't made any excuses. The Democrats, the party of JD, blocked passage of the 13 Amendment in 1864. The voters responded by replacing them with Republicans, who voted to pass the 13th Amendment and send it to the states for ratification. Those are the facts, so no excuses are needed.,/P>
Actually this is false. It did not pass until the Southern states came back in and ratified it after the end of the war.
The Corwin Amendment explicitly protected slavery effectively forever. FIFY
FIFY.
The Republicans showed what they meant by "all our National Territory" (not territories) when they voted to abolish slavery in all states. Likewise, the party of JD, the Democrats, showed what they meant by states' rights in 1864 when they voted against the 13th Amendment.,/P>
LOL! No they didn't. You are trying to conflate two completely different things. The Republicans were not abolitionists prior to the war and explicitly said so over and over and over again.
Nine years after they published their platform, they had the votes they needed to abolish slavery, and they did it in all states.
Nobody disputes that. Their view changed in the latter stages of the war.
No.,/p>
I can understand why you don't want to read direct evidence that refutes the dogma you've been taught.
Apparently they did, but thanks for your opinion.
They didn't. What they had were more men and more guns. They did not have a legal or constitutional right to do so. Might does not make right.
Ask me if I'm impressed that you think people who split the nation and defended the right to own slaves should be elected to the federal government.
Ask me if I believe the lies about them defending an institution that simply was not threatened in the US when they chose to leave. Also ask me if the sovereign states ever agreed to delegate the right to prevent secession to the federal government they created.
But then again, we're guilty of using slave labor today as a result of our free trade deals with the communists. The only difference is that instead of importing the slave labor, we've exported the plantations.
With Nike, Apple, etc etc serving as the modern slave masters. After all, they enable this by lobbying with all their might to prevent Congress from imposing sanctions on China for their slavery and genocide.
Yes, yes, and true communism has never been tried.
Non sequitor alert
From their point of view they did. They saw it as breeding slaves and livestock to be sold.
Or raped.
You said the primary difference between the Confederate Constitution and the US Constitution was the protection of slavery. That was false. They did not materially differ on protections of slavery.
Wow you're dense. I know the US Constitution protected slavery. I just don't understand how when the idea of slavery seems to contradict it's overall meaning. I hope you got it this time.
Its not only that not everyone in the North was among the abolitionists, its that almost nobody was.
All but a few states in the North had already abolished slavery at the state level. When they got the chance, they voted to abolish it at the national level.
No its not. It takes time to ratify a constitutional amendment. Look how long some states have taken before ratifying various constitutional amendments.
Five states had ratified the Corbomite Maneuver, so the rest had the time to do it if they had intended to.
Actually this is false. It did not pass until the Southern states came back in and ratified it after the end of the war.
I said it passed and was sent to the states for ratification in 1865, after the party of JD, the Democrats, blocked it in 1864.
The Corwin Amendment was nothing.
LOL! No they didn't. You are trying to conflate two completely different things. The Republicans were not abolitionists prior to the war and explicitly said so over and over and over again.
And I've already answered your spam. They had to deal with the threat of secession and were speaking out of both sides of their mounths. When they got the votes they needed, they passed abolition and sent it to the states for ratification.
I can understand why you don't want to read direct evidence that refutes the dogma you've been taught.
That isn't evidence, just a book writer's conclusions that happen to match yours, even with all of the negative things you said about her otherwise.
They didn't. What they had were more men and more guns. They did not have a legal or constitutional right to do so. Might does not make right.
The Confederate leaders were leaders of a foreign nation that made war on the Union. They had no constitutional right to public office.
Ask me if I believe the lies about them defending an institution that simply was not threatened in the US when they chose to leave. Also ask me if the sovereign states ever agreed to delegate the right to prevent secession to the federal government they created.
I'll do better and ask the Confederacy's leaders themselves.
Speech of Jefferson Davis before the Mississippi Legislature, Nov. 16, 1858
The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States
Constitution of the Confederate States; March 11, 1861
Thank you, leaders of the Confederacy, for telling us that the Republicans were a threat to the institution of slavery and that's why you seceded.
With Nike, Apple, etc etc serving as the modern slave masters. After all, they enable this by lobbying with all their might to prevent Congress from imposing sanctions on China for their slavery and genocide.
Yes. You think I'm trying to stick slavery on the South, but America today is no better.
Non sequitor alert
What made my reply relevant is that everyone uses PR to push unpopular policies, and the Confederacy was no different when it came to the image they were trying to present to the rest of the world.