[TwelveOfTwenty #592] "It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939." Berlin, 29 April, 1945, 4 a.m. Adolf HitlerSee how that works?
[woodpusher #594] Usenet "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. [Your snippet quote prematurely ended here. My quote continued.] There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress.
[TwelveOfTwenty #597 to woodpusher #596] I understand your point. My only point was that when all was lost, Hitler's response was something to the effect of "I didn't want this". I saw the same in the comments you posted from Jefferson Davis in 1865, when he tried to distance himself from slavery.
This nominal response to my #596, quotes here from my #594.
You understood my point well, and made sure to omit it from your snippet quote.
Your #592, nominally responded to my #590, by inserting an irrelevant Hitler comment into the conversation, having nothing to do with the content of my #590, and making believe that you had, thereby, responded to something in my #590.
My #590 was a response to FLT-bird #594, additional addressee wardaddy. You were not included.
"I hope the negroes' fidelity will be duly rewarded and regret that we are not in a position to aid and protect them. There is, I observe, a controversy which I regret as to allowing negroes to testify in court. From brother Joe [Joseph Davis], many years ago, I derived the opinion that they should be made competent witnesses, the jury judging of their credibility. (Jefferson Davis: Private Letters 1823-1889, selected and edited by Hudson Strode, New York: De Capo Press, 1995, reprint, p. 188)
That was quoted from FLT-bird #494 and I provided a slightly longer quote from the Memoir of Varina Davis and some additional information.
Varina Davis, Jefferson Davis: Ex-President of the Confederate States of America, A Memoir by his Wife, Volume 2Chapter 71: letters from prison.
From Mr. Davis to Mrs. Davis.
Fortress Monroe, Va., October 11, 1865Excerpt pp. 720-21
I hope the negroes' fidelity will be duly [723] rewarded, and regret that we are not in a situation to aid and protect them. There is, I observe, a controversy which I regret as to allowing negroes to testify in court. From brother Joe, many years ago, I derived the opinion that they should then be made competent witnesses, the jury judging of their credibility; out of my opinion on that point, arose my difficulty with Mr. C—*, and any doubt which might have existed in my mind was removed at that time.…
* An overseer who gave up his place with us, on account of the negroes being allowed a hearing in their own defence.
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[TwelveOfTwenty #592] See how that works?
I see exactly how that works. In the grand tradition of Gresham's Law quoted supra, you descended to the Hitler and Nazi reference and automatically lost any argument in progress.
Davis was an enlightened man. I know people will scream "but he was a slave owner!!!". True, he was. But he set up a system whereby his slaves would judge any others accused of an offense before any punishment was handed down. He reserved for himself the right to lesson any punishment decided upon by the jury but never to increase it. He allowed his slaves to earn money for side jobs which they could keep for themselves. He had long advocated emancipation for slaves and their families in exchange for military service and he had long advocated emancipation in exchange for British/French recognition both of which he eventually go the Confederate Congress to agree to. He always treated Blacks with respect and they knew it and in turn he was well regarded by them. Not that you will read this in any of the history textbooks in the government schools or see it on the so-called "history" channel or PBS.
Hitler card.....Godwin’s law ....when simply uttering “slavery is bad “ doesn’t work there is always Hitler .....naturally
Something dawned on me tonight making the long drive back from Traverse County.....Sutton’s Bay Michigan ....glorious foliage I might add...to growth on steroids middle Tennessee
These Macpherson Zinn bots here....especially the cut and paste ones who ....ahem...are said to be noted scholars and Hugh Hewitt bootlickers
Are arguably not actually right-leaning contributing to anything here but WBTS threads where it’s steady chundering of puritanical abolitionist zeal v2.0
Now admittedly a couple of the non cut and paste popcorn gallery ...including the nameless unhinged one ....do post elsewhere....on pertinent threads
Hitler cards are only played by the weak and feeble cowardly sorts who lack any wisdom beyond the self gratification of virtue projection borne at the cost of the mere aforementioned chunder
In other words....free