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To: TwelveOfTwenty
I'm sure I can trust their press when they tried to make it about something other than slavery, as much as I can trust our press when it comes to honest reporting. Here are the declarations of secession.

Why would they have reason to lie about the economic case for secession? It was obvious the Southern states would be economically better off were they able to set their own tax and trade policies. Southerners had been talking about it for generations as the numerous quotes I cited show.

The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States

We've discussed this already. Only 4 of the 7 original seceding states issued declarations of causes. 3 of the 4 went on at length about their economic exploitation by the Northern states even though this was not unconstitutional. What was unconstitutional was what they cited - the Northern states violation of the compact by refusing to enforce the fugitive slave clause of the US Constitution.

If you don't believe it was about slavery, then post an affirmation that you agree with every point made in these declarations.

Do I believe they were being economically exploited by the Northern states? Yes, of course. The evidence is irrefutable. Do I believe the Northern states violated the Fugitive Slave Clause of the US Constitution? Yes, of course they did. That too is irrefutable.

The reason the Republican Party formed was to abolish slavery.

False. They said so themselves over and over again.

Republican Platform of 1856 "that, as our Republican fathers, when they had abolished Slavery in all our National Territory, ordained that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, it becomes our duty to maintain this provision of the Constitution against all attempts to violate it for the purpose of establishing Slavery in the Territories of the United States by positive legislation, prohibiting its existence or extension therein."

They were against the spread of slavery to the western territories possessed by the United States. They were not for abolishing slavery. You do understand that these are two different things, right?

167 posted on 10/03/2021 9:17:34 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird
Why would they have reason to lie about the economic case for secession?

They would have had plenty of reason to lie about it being about something other than slavery.

Do I believe they were being economically exploited by the Northern states? Yes, of course. The evidence is irrefutable.

I'll repeat, if you don't believe it was about slavery, then post an affirmation that you agree with every point made in these declarations.

Do I believe the Northern states violated the Fugitive Slave Clause of the US Constitution? Yes, of course they did. That too is irrefutable.

Just wow. Would you have rescued the slaves if you were in a position to do so?

They were against the spread of slavery to the western territories possessed by the United States. They were not for abolishing slavery. You do understand that these are two different things, right?

positive legislation, prohibiting its existence or extension therein.

169 posted on 10/03/2021 9:39:14 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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