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To: DiogenesLamp
That is exactly what the Lincoln supported Corwin Amendment said.

Lincoln didn't think he could abolish slavery, and this was an attempt to prevent more states from seceding over the issue while preventing the spread of slavery. Then the first shots of the CW were fired, and that was it for this amendment. At that point, he had additional powers that he could use to abolish slavery, and that's what he did.

Because that is a lie. Only 4 mention slavery as a reason for secession, and even at that, they mention a whole lot of other stuff too, but people have been taught to only remember the slavery part, and not at all the other things they complained about.

I know, I know, it was about states rights, but from their pint of view those states rights included slavery.

And most of the states did not mention slavery as a reason.

You mentioned that several times in your other post. Do share, what is the state's right they seceded over?

Certainly Virginia did not say they were leaving because of slavery. They said they were leaving because the Federal government had become tyrannical.

"and the Federal Government, having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern Slaveholding States." Their words, not mine.

154 posted on 10/02/2021 4:21:00 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Lincoln didn't think he could abolish slavery, and this was an attempt to prevent more states from seceding over the issue while preventing the spread of slavery. Then the first shots of the CW were fired, and that was it for this amendment. At that point, he had additional powers that he could use to abolish slavery, and that's what he did.

Lincoln was not in favor of abolishing slavery - a point he made over and over again. Slavery forever was in fact the first bargaining chip the North/Republicans/Federal Government offered up. It was rejected - because slavery wasn't really what anybody was fighting about.

I know, I know, it was about states rights, but from their pint of view those states rights included slavery. It was really about controlling their tariffs and setting their own trade policy.....about not being taxed for the benefit of others. And most of the states did not mention slavery as a reason. You mentioned that several times in your other post. Do share, what is the state's right they seceded over? Certainly Virginia did not say they were leaving because of slavery. They said they were leaving because the Federal government had become tyrannical. "and the Federal Government, having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern Slaveholding States." Their words, not mine.

158 posted on 10/02/2021 6:45:32 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Lincoln didn't think he could abolish slavery, and this was an attempt to prevent more states from seceding over the issue while preventing the spread of slavery.

This statement shows just how much you have accepted the narrative you've been taught. I actually went to the trouble of looking at this "spread of slavery" and what i've discovered is it's a lie. Slavery could not spread to any meaningful degree into the territories because plantation style farming was impossible in the territories at the time.

But we've all been taught the lie, and so now people simply repeat that claim with no knowledge regarding what is actually true.

The cotton shown in New Mexico, Arizona and Southern California can only be grown in modern times due to massive irrigation systems which could not have been created in the 19th century.

The truth is, that there were less than a dozen slaves in all the territories up until 1865. There was no demand for slaves in the territories. There would have been no "spread" of slavery.

200 posted on 10/04/2021 8:53:42 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to<i> no other sovereignty.")
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
At that point, he had additional powers that he could use to abolish slavery, and that's what he did.

No he didn't. What he did was illegal from a constitutional standpoint. He broke the law when he did what he did.

201 posted on 10/04/2021 8:55:21 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to<i> no other sovereignty.")
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