[The_Media_never_lie]

30 million men on the dole?

[Bull Man]

Tired of being a tax donkey.

[Bull Man]

Why bother. Suck from the tit while the sucking’s good!

[Huskrrrr]

Seems like every other person I meet in Cal is on disability.

[Bull Man]

Tired of being a sap.

[plain talk]

My guess that in majority of those cases their wife or girlfriend works and pays the bills

[Degaston]

If government was shrunk down to its Constitutionally legit size then we could have most of it funded through property taxes, natural resources depletion fees, tolls, and people/cargo tariffs. There is approx 70 trillion of residential, commercial, and industrial real estate and if these average 4% per annum as 80% of total revenues (not counting internal tolls) then that is 3.5 trillion per annum for local, state, and federal revenues. The income tax, payroll tax, etc are abominable.

[whitney69]

Unfortunate the authors used the time frame of the late 40’s for a comparison as that is when both wars ended and there was a mass reentry of men and women returning to an economy that had been protected by deficit spending. And I believe the major difference there was that those people wanted to work, but couldn’t find it with a hamstrung economy. These people are choosing not to work for a number of negative reasons that can push the economy to deficit.

wy69

[Jamestown1630]

It’s a good idea to read the entire article - the title is kind of misleading. The author admits that a good number of those range between homeless/mentally ill, men who retired-early, stay-at-home dads, those living off the land, etc. (And I certainly wouldn't consider those last three to be 'non-working'.)

Noted toward the end: ‘Others are living non-working lives without burdening society or others, such as a fireman on early retirement (though some argue municipal employee pensions are too high), or an investor who made a ton of money in the market and called it quits, or maybe a wilderness guy living off the land in Alaska.'

But he also says, ‘It seems like working legally to provide for yourself in America is really just one option these days.’ So, I wonder whether our author thinks that those options under ‘non-working lives without burdening society’ are ‘legal’ or not...

Half-baked article containing lots of illogic.

[KevinB]

7 ways men live without working in America

[rfreedom4u]

I’m 56 years old and I’ve been fully retired for 4 years.

[PeterPrinciple]

This is precisely what an International Monetary Fund (IMF) study found. “Countries with relatively low tax rates, fewer laws and regulations, and a well-established rule of law tend to have smaller shadow economies,” the study concluded.8

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/032916/how-big-underground-economy-america.asp



[Gay State Conservative]

later

[Don Corleone]

Make that 8 if you count marrying rich like Kerry.

[Secret Agent Man]

More misandry blame all the bad crap on men

Typical of gynosociety media, all they know how to write

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

I think the problem here is a very limited economic model, based on a theoretical ideal, that cannot adapt to endless exceptions that have it bursting at the seams.

I am reminded of a homeless young man I knew. A real genius according to scholastic measurements, who eventually went to Stanford on a hard science degree and was at the head of his class for his bachelor and master’s degrees.

Well, he had been happily homeless for years, when he noticed a young police officer tailing him on foot. He was not a suspect, and the officer knew he was smart, very smart, but was perplexed why anyone like him would be homeless. The officer eventually confronted him and said he could get training and a good job, and live a *normal* middle class life. (Just like me!)

Well, the homeless young man could see nothing good coming of this, so he quickly located a senior police officer and let him know that the younger officer was having existential problems and needed counseling, describing the situation.

I have taken this situation to heart with the realization that there are a LOT of people with the naivete of this young cop, and find it impossible to think outside the box. Such people are also commonly in politics and government, and running corporations and NGOs.

So the entire premise of this article is the puzzlement of such people, that *other* people are not conforming to their rigid ideas and models. They generate endless exceptions without realizing that their model is so flawed as to be useless.

[DazedVet]

I am an RVer and met a guy in Colorado who was about 50 and 2 kids out of the house and he and his wife full time RV. He says he knows where he can hunt precious stones. He said he lives mostly cash basis and I am sure he isn’t on any government programs. People can live off grid and be happy and secure.

[Sapwolf]

How many of the 30 million are ILLEGAL immigrants? 20+ million