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To: Pelham

What do you make of the sit rep in Israel and UK

The one who i paid most attention to was the Trinidadian epidemiology guy

Don’t recall name

Talked quasi Rasta

The vax complex seems to move the goal posts

92%

70%

50%

Makes it better if you get it anyhow

And so on

It’s a mess is putting it charitably

The Trini phd was talking in depth about viral load in the vaxxed


142 posted on 09/17/2021 6:06:02 PM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps and scolds peppered with good folks )
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To: wardaddy

They are passing around the Delta variant. The vaccines aren’t nearly as effective against the Delta spike. Vax effectiveness versus natural immunity is a “5·8-fold” reduction. That’s what this is saying in PubMed speak:

“However, NAbTs (neutralising antibody titres) were 5·8-fold reduced against B.1.617.2 (Delta) relative to Wild-type (natural immunity) (95% CI 5·0–6·9)”

You’ll find that in the 4th paragraph of this paper:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8175044/

UK had also used a vax that we don’t, the Oxford-AstraZeneca. Not exclusively, but it was the first one. I don’t know if that makes any difference or not. Israel used Biontech-Pfizer AFAIK which makes them comparable to us.

The big issue appears to be that Delta can largely elude our original vaccines and infect the already vaccinated.

Covid-19 is an RNA virus. This 2009 post “The error-prone ways of RNA synthesis” describes why that is a problem:

“RNA viruses are the kings of errors – these enzymes screw up as often as one time for every 1,000 – 100,000 nucleotides polymerized. This high rate of mutation comes from the lack of proofreading ability in RNA polymerases. These enzymes make mistakes, but they can’t correct them. Therefore the mutations remain in the newly synthesized RNA.”

They are the most unstable of viruses, even worse at getting things right than flu. That means constant mutation.

https://www.virology.ws/2009/05/10/the-error-prone-ways-of-rna-synthesis/


144 posted on 09/17/2021 9:12:12 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: wardaddy

Ivermectin AND HCQ both reduce viral load, and with Ivermectin it is more dramatic. The ionophore nature of HCQ means zinc should be taken along with the HCQ because the zinc INSIDE the cell inhibits viral replication, further working to reduce viral load. As soon as symptoms are noticed, taking Ivermectin AND HCQ with zinc works in ‘most’ people to keep viral load low enough fopr the immune system to overcome the invading virons.


159 posted on 09/17/2021 10:27:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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