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Mandate Vaccine?
https://townhall.com/columnists/johnstossel/2021/09/01/mandate-vaccine-n2595084 ^ | September 1, 2021 | John Stossel

Posted on 09/01/2021 3:44:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

Politicians love force.

The idea of leaving us alone to make our own decisions goes against their nature.

To be sure, civilized society sometimes needs government force: police to punish killers, soldiers to protect us from foreign invaders, environmental police to stop my smoke from flowing to your lungs ...

But the political class always goes too far.

Now some want medical police to force everyone to get vaccinated. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.

"It has!" you say. "I have to get vaccinated to keep my job, for my kids to attend school, to go to the movies, a restaurant, etc."

That's force, absolutely. But it's not mandatory. There's an out – we don't have to work for the government, eat indoors or go to a movie theater. We can home-school our kids. We still have choice.

So far, politicians haven't sent police into homes to force everyone to get vaccinated.

They did do that once.

In Philadelphia 30 years ago, a measles outbreak sickened 1,400 people, mostly children, and killed nine. The outbreak spread because leaders of two fundamentalist churches told congregants to refuse the vaccine; God would do the healing.

Philadelphia's health department got a court order that compelled parents to allow their kids to be vaccinated.

Remarkably, "They complied with the law," says vaccine expert Dr. Paul Offit in my new video. "They were law-abiding." The Philadelphia parents didn't fight the order. That ended the epidemic.

Politicians love force.

The idea of leaving us alone to make our own decisions goes against their nature.

To be sure, civilized society sometimes needs government force: police to punish killers, soldiers to protect us from foreign invaders, environmental police to stop my smoke from flowing to your lungs ...

But the political class always goes too far.

Now some want medical police to force everyone to get vaccinated. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.

"It has!" you say. "I have to get vaccinated to keep my job, for my kids to attend school, to go to the movies, a restaurant, etc."

That's force, absolutely. But it's not mandatory. There's an out – we don't have to work for the government, eat indoors or go to a movie theater. We can home-school our kids. We still have choice.

So far, politicians haven't sent police into homes to force everyone to get vaccinated.

They did do that once.

In Philadelphia 30 years ago, a measles outbreak sickened 1,400 people, mostly children, and killed nine. The outbreak spread because leaders of two fundamentalist churches told congregants to refuse the vaccine; God would do the healing.

Philadelphia's health department got a court order that compelled parents to allow their kids to be vaccinated.

Remarkably, "They complied with the law," says vaccine expert Dr. Paul Offit in my new video. "They were law-abiding." The Philadelphia parents didn't fight the order. That ended the epidemic.

But I doubt that vaccine-resistant Americans would be similarly compliant today. Now there's an anti-vaccine movement. I'm surprised by the outpouring of hatred for Offit on my YouTube and Facebook channels that follows my video.

Some of it is nonsense from ignorant anti-vaxxers. But I respect commenters expressing versions of the chant, "My body, my choice!"

That slogan makes a good point.

We are not really free if we don't own our own bodies. (It's another reason to oppose the Drug War.) Individuals should get to decide what's put in our own bodies.

But a deadly pandemic is a special case.

COVID-19 continues to kill, partly because some people refuse the vaccine. "This virus has a great many friends," complains Offit. "Science denialists, conspiracy theorists, political pundits. It's hard to watch."

"People have reason to be suspicious!" I say. "The government has experimented on people and lied to people."

(Officials once promised Black syphilis patients treatment but gave them empty pills. The CIA sneaked LSD into people's drinks. More recently, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Americans don't need to wear masks, and then he said we should wear masks.)

"I'm not saying that the government hasn't done things that make one trust them less," Offit responds. "Or that the CDC hasn't made statements that were incorrect, (but) such is the nature of science. You do learn as you go."

What we have learned now is that the vaccine does dramatically reduce hospitalization and death, and we'd all be better off if more people took it.

Vaccine skeptics point to media reports of "breakthrough" cases, vaccinated people who get COVID-19 anyway. Offit's reply? "I'm on CNN and MSNBC a lot ... I think they want to scare people."

They do. It raises ratings, and it makes reporters feel important.

But Offit points out that even after delta, "99.5% of people killed by this virus are unvaccinated! Ninety-seven percent of those hospitalized are unvaccinated! No vaccine works 100%."

Today's COVID-19 vaccines have now been tested on millions of people. It's clear that they are very safe and that they save lives.

It's why Offit would mandate vaccinations.

That's where we disagree.

I consider vaccine refusers foolish and selfish. I got vaccinated, and I wish you would.

But government should never force a treatment on people. That's tyranny.

That said, I shouldn't say "never."

If you are proven a direct threat to others -- if your behavior kills -- then the safety police do have a right to step in to stop you from hurting others.

Short of that, politicians should never force us to put anything into our own bodies.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: covid19; covidvaccine; policestate; tyranny; vaccine
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To: Mygirlsmom

I personally know three similar cases of “unexpected” deaths from otherwise healthy people following the jabs.


41 posted on 09/01/2021 6:56:20 AM PDT by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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To: heylady

My Mom is 82 and unvaccinated. Our entire family got covid in Nov of 2020, including my daughter who was staying with my Mom after my Dad passed.

Mom was the only one who didnt get sick in spite of direct exposure

We treated her with quercitin, zinc and Vitamin C, which is what we all took through the course of the virus

I just took her to Florida to visit my brother and we used the same as a prophylactic.

I hear you...the fear stories get to everyone. Be well. Be blessed.


42 posted on 09/01/2021 7:10:54 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Back after a long hiatus. Now mygrandkidsgrandma)
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To: Mygirlsmom

I take a multi vitamin with zinc, quercetin with vit c, 5000 units of vitd3, and a low dose aspirin daily. Thanks for the encouragement. Oh, and melatonin at night as do my son and DIL.


43 posted on 09/01/2021 8:06:35 AM PDT by heylady
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To: IrishBrigade

Does anyone know if the Afghan refugees are mandated to get vaccinated?


44 posted on 09/01/2021 9:36:04 AM PDT by freebird5850 (The only way I can treat this fever....More cowbell!)
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To: heylady

Sounds like you are doing what you can do.

Have you researched whether monoclonal antibodies are available in your area and what you might need to do to get them?

It pays to know ahead of time so there is no delay if needed.


45 posted on 09/01/2021 9:36:12 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Back after a long hiatus. Now mygrandkidsgrandma)
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To: Kaslin
Re:I consider vaccine refusers foolish and selfish. I got vaccinated, and I wish you would.

...Today's COVID-19 vaccines have now been tested on millions of people. It's clear that they are very safe and that they save lives.

These points are where John Stossel and I disagree.

Apparently Stossel is part of that mind-numbed robot/ hive mentality that is blind to the fact that Pfizer and Moderna broke protocol right after the FDA granted "emergency use authorization" and dumped its clinical trial testing group. This clinical trial testing group is REQUIRED for FDA approval! This breach of protocol was not only reported in conservative news publications, but also NPR.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/02/19/969143015/long-term-studies-of-covid-19-vaccines-hurt-by-placebo-recipients-getting-immuni

The FDA also cut corners and blew off some of its own protocols in order to rush through "approval" of an experimental mRNA drug (not a vaccine) whose "approval" was based more on politics than it was on science. "Science" these days seems to be whatever Fauci and Walensky say it is.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/fda-approval-letter-pfizer-vaccine-several-key-future-dates-complete-studies-threw-garbage-approved-yesterday/

Sen. Johnson to Federal Health Agencies: Expediting Approval Process Appears to Serve the Political Purpose of Imposing and Enforcing Vaccine Mandates

August 22, 2021

https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/2021/8/sen-johnson-to-federal-health-agencies-expediting-approval-process-appears-to-serve-the-political-purpose-of-imposing-and-enforcing-vaccine-mandates

Even if the Covid-19 "vaccine" confers some protection against COVID-19 in the short term, both short and long term side effects including myocarditis, blood clots, neurological issues, etc. are still relatively unknown. Drugs with far fewer side effects than the COVID-19 "vaccine" have been pulled off the market by the FDA and for Stossel to claim that the vaccines are "safe" merely because they have been given to millions of people seems to be itself a downright FOOLISH! opinion.

Oh and by the way, nearly half the NIAID and FDA employees have refused the vaccine that they are trying to force on the rest of us. Maybe Strossel ought to go and tell these employees how "selfish" and "foolish" they are.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/wow-nearly-half-niaid-fda-employees-refusing-covid-vaccine-according-marks-fauci/

46 posted on 09/01/2021 10:21:52 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory!)
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