Posted on 07/18/2021 6:03:49 PM PDT by bitt
What’s the process for “legal?” What’s the first step? What is the step after that?
Who would have standing to bring a legal case?
A seated federal officer has never been so sued because congress has plenary power over all federal officers.
I’m talking at the state level for their senator.
No, I won’t be disappointed because I think the chance of them doing that is about zero.
Just listened to one of Trump’s advisors on the topic (Bannon’s war room.) He referred to a governor in Hawaii who recalled electors after fraud was discovered and the recall stood, in 1960. He said, roughly, that “ the Constitution does not prescribe a course of action nor prevent a course of action, and that the Constitution does not mandate that a fraudulent election be accepted as final.”
Such acceptance would lead to the contradiction that adherents to the rule of law are aiding in the destruction of the country by corrupt officials who exploit adherence to the rule of law.
Hawaii didn’t really “recall” it’s electors. The governor of HI certified two different slates of electors. At first, it appeared the GOP candidate, Nixon, had won by 141 votes, so the governor certified the GOP slate to send to congress. After a court-ordered recount showed Kennedy up by 115, the governor signed a second certificate for the Kennedy’s electors.
Nixon, who was VP at the time, counted the Democratic certificate and ignored the GOP one.
All this happened prior to Congressional certification, a key difference from the situation in AZ.
AZ should’ve recalled it’s electors before congress certified the election, not months after.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_United_States_presidential_election_in_Hawaii
The two slates of certified electors came to DC (that didn’t happen with Arizona in 2020). And that was handled during the electoral vote certification in Congress - which is the time to handle it - not after everything had been certified by Congress and the new president had been inaugurated.
The time for things to have been done to protect against fraud was before the elections took place. I know President Trump’s team knew it was coming. I don’t understand why there wasn’t more actually done before November, 2020.
“The time for things to have been done to protect against fraud was before the elections took place.”
Well, okay, if you accept that the Constitution honors and legitimizes a stolen presidential election, which means it has been a joke the whole time.
More like, “The purpose of the audits is to maintain your state of anger over the 2020 election so you’ll contribute lots of money in the 2022 election.”
There are no losers when campaign contributions are the real goal.
And what is your next step? And the step after that.
The Constitution honors the states’ right to run elections the way they see fit. The states ran their elections and certified their slates of electors and sent them to Congress.
It isn’t what I accept or don’t accept. Honestly, if the Giuliani clown-car didn’t make everything such a laughing stock and actual serious lawyers had had a chance to present the case, there may have been some remedy before states certified their electors.
In other words, as I stated, you abide by the Constitution even though the demos don’t and piss on it and use your adherence to what you think is the rule of law to destroy the nation. So when we lose our nation, you can comfort yourself with the idea that you clung to what you thought was the rule of law.
You will tell them that five Republican majority legislatures (AZ, WI, MI, PA, GA) refused to object to the appointment of Electors for Biden/Harris, and that, as a result, they were elected President and Vice President in the only Presidential Election provided for in the US Constitution on December 14, 2020.
Shakespeare had this covered, as he had covered so many other things:
Henry IV, Act 3, scene 1:
Glendower: "I can call spirits from the vasty deep"
Hotspur: "Why, so can I and so can any man! But will they come when you do call them?"
It isn’t what I think. If I’m wrong on the law, show me where. I’m perfectly willing to learn since I’m not a lawyer and make no claim to know the ins and outs of the situation.
Tell me what I should do. What is the next step you’re taking? Sitting here being outraged and saying that something must be done is not a plan.
Working to get rid of RINOs is a plan. Focusing on primarying RINOs is something that can actually be done. Get people in state legislatures who will protect election integrity.
+1.
Biden should be a Republican, he supports all their priorities:
1) Open borders and amnesty for illegals here now.
2) A money system based on usury.
3) Tax cuts to enable capital to enact their priorities while allowing public goods like roads, bridges, tunnels, waterworks, fuel distribution, etc. to decay.
4) Foreign wars to benefit alien peoples.
5) A global free market in labor.
6) Penalty-free removal of US industries to foreign countries.
7) An end to culture wars at home, in the name of (false) liberty.
8) Severe regulation of extractive, productive, and transport industries that cannot be offshored.
9) Make sure any public spending is wasted on unproductive or disturbed individuals and "equity" rather than public goods.
That's the GOP in a nutshell. Biden (were he not senile) would be their dream President come true.
OK, OK. We were/are discussing the appointment of Electors, for which the Constitution does not even IMPLY a general election.
The Constitution says that the states can chose the method of how the electors are selected, which allows for elections. It also says that Congress can specify when the electors meet and that it must be the same day for all states.
Exactly.
Everyone who goes to the Olympics wants to win a medal. Say there are two competitors who say, “My goal is to win a medal.”
Competitor A focuses on the goal, writes about the goal, talks about the goal, blogs about the goal, and dreams about the goal every night.
Competitor B focuses on ways to get to the goal. He makes a plan for what he’s going to do every day to get closer to the goal. He optimizes his daily training; he eats the optimal foods; he works on his mindset in concrete ways with visualization and competent coaching.
Which competitor actually has a chance of medaling?
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