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To: cuz1961

This sounds like a setup for another Enron.

In Cali, they were so anti-energy that they frequently had to purchase energy from adjoining states at floating spot rates.

Since Oregon will never be able to have a totally green power system that can also handle surge needs (a cloudy spell, or a heat dome), they’re going to be at the mercy of the spot market. Somebody will take advantage of that situation... or if prevented by regulation, the state will suffer massive brownouts and blackouts from time to time.


2 posted on 06/29/2021 4:34:14 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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California depends on out of state hydropower everyday at sunset when solar power fades out from about 4 pm to 8 pm. But what happened during 2020 summer heat wave is that nearby states had no power to sell California because those states had shifted to solar power too and needed their excess natural gas power to handle the regional heat wave.

What will happen to Oregon is vulnerability to a grid collapse when there is a heat wave or cold snap because green power has only Direct Current, not Alternating Current -— no frequency to maintain the grid Alternating Current will result in collapse. Alternating Current is what makes refrigerators, stereos, computers and water pumping stations work.. Green power has no Frequency at all. So this is such colossal ignorance that one has to wonder if Democrats want perpetual grid crises to frighten or punish their constitutents who always blame droughts, heat waves and cold snaps on an act of god, when it is they who create them.


18 posted on 06/29/2021 5:21:46 AM PDT by WLusvardi (Drudge Fudges)
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