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To: Bulwyf

“Slavery was on the way out too because of industrialization, and was naturally ending”

B.S. 1850 census 3,204,313 slaves in the United States.
1860 census 4,441,830 slaves in the United States.
In 1860 those slaves produced over 5 million bales of cotton. As long as that kind of production could be had by slave labor, it was going to continue to grow.
As far as industrialization, not in the South. There was, as of 1860, only one industrial operation in the South that could produce a steam locomotive. The last shoe factory in the shouth closed in 1858. According to the 1860 census, The value of textiles produced in the South was 10 million dollars, in the North 181 million dollars.
The South produced 37,000 tons of iron in 1860. The North produced 951,000 tons of iron. In the South there were 18,000 manufacturing operations, in the North 110,000.
In the South 110,000 industrial workers, in the North 1.3 million industrial workers.
As long as money could be made using slaves to produce cotton, the institution of slavery was not going to be supplanted by industrialization for many decades after 1860


28 posted on 06/20/2021 2:10:24 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

Sorry Sir, I’ve seen your posts and you seem to be a one trick pony.

Worldwide acceptance of slavery was dying off fast, unless you were a moslem, then it’s business as usual.

What about all those Irish slaves? They were very numerous.

Who was responsible for capturing slaves (and still does to this day). You rail against the wrong people.

Many have been lucky that their ancestors got on the boats and have said so themselves.

Is life perfect for people? No, it is not, but you do not see a mass exodus for Africa either, do you?

I don’t agree with slavery, I never did, I believe God made all men free, but that doesn’t change what people did and continue to do.

To pretend that war though was about that and not about consolidating power is quite naive and hurtful to everyone.

A lot of blacks back in the day didn’t want to be “liberated” and pushed into service of the north. They were happy where they were. Of course nobody wants to talk about that.

I especially don’t think that anyone alive today should be paying money for things they had no part of. The BLM and similar groups have done nothing but harm relations. Nobody is denying any black people these days any advantages etc that anyone else has, at least not around here.


52 posted on 06/20/2021 3:29:44 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bull Snipe

You’re exactly right. Ready Shelby Foote’s three volume set on the Civil War and if the south had had 1/2 the manufacturing of the north, they may have won.


60 posted on 06/20/2021 3:43:42 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Bull Snipe

“As long as money could be made using slaves to produce cotton, the institution of slavery was not going to be supplanted by industrialization for many decades after 1860”

Let’s focus on that statement. Sounds like you’d agree that a smart plantation operator would prefer share cropping to slave ownership since “more money could be made”.


61 posted on 06/20/2021 3:44:21 PM PDT by moehoward (.)
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To: Bull Snipe
The international Slave trade was outlawed in the United States in 1808.

You increase in figures are of the natural procreation of existing slaves.

69 posted on 06/20/2021 4:03:49 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: Bull Snipe

“In the South there were 18,000 manufacturing operations, in the North 110,000.”

The difference in industrial production between North and South is almost mind boggling.

IMO the 1860 Census is one of the better ones, it provides information on banks,newspapers, churches, manufacturing, agriculture, real estate valuations, railroads, shipping etc.

I actually printed out the 1860 Census for my own records about two years ago. The 1850 & 1870 Censuses are also good resources for people interested in U.S. history.


70 posted on 06/20/2021 4:05:03 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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