[palmer]

I know of at least 4 acquaintances who stated they signed no consent forms and were not counseled prior to injection. That is not good. They were just shuttled through a vax site like cattle

Nobody is counseled. When you sign up you acknowledge reading the fine print (which nobody reads). Then when you get the shot they take your name and other details and hand you a piece of paper with some fluffy info and the VAERS website and hotline. They watch you for 15 minutes (1/2 hour if you have allergies). That's it, nobody says anything. Not sure why you expect anything else.

[Polynikes]

I guess that happens when the manufacturer is immune from prosecution while a experimental substance is used on the general public. That's pathetic and unethical. Once this settles down some folks deserve a Nuremberg 2.0 trial