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Senate Special Committee Releases Report on Election Reforms (PA)
senatorargall.com ^ | June 14, 2021 | State Senator David Argall

Posted on 06/15/2021 8:53:34 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA

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To: Erik Latranyi

How do you do photo id on a mail in ballot?


21 posted on 06/15/2021 10:55:14 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

While this may work consider the low travel volume, no mail in ballots is not realistic. Prior to Covid, my job requires extensive national travel and several times I have been out of the state during the election. I have also been in travel mandatory positions that required 4 to 6 weeks at a time overseas. My father-in-law is home bound due to age, amputation and illness (MS).


22 posted on 06/15/2021 10:58:59 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: taxcontrol
How do you do photo id on a mail in ballot?

You need a photo ID to request the ballot and it must be done in-person.

23 posted on 06/15/2021 11:00:25 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: taxcontrol
How do you do photo id on a mail in ballot?

I would eliminate all mail in ballots, including absentee ballots.

Every Embassy/Consulate and military base would have a polling place where you must show up in-person, show a photo ID that proves your citizenship and vote on paper that is fed into a computer.

Computer voting results are reported by midnight.

Paper ballots are securely retained for 5 years. But within one week of the election, an independent auditing firm hired by a supermajority vote of the legislature, tabulates the paper ballots and audits the computer results.

24 posted on 06/15/2021 11:03:07 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: ConservativeInPA

The real leaders in PA Maastriano and Kelly Ward are proposing eliminating the no excuse mail in ballot and even repeal of act 77 that started this mess. Seth grove did the hearings on the house side. I have continually reminded him that the election workers do not have the skill or capability to manage the mail in ballot volume as evidenced by the lack of any process controls and most of the mail in ballot election process is not even audit-able.


25 posted on 06/15/2021 11:32:17 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: ConservativeInPA

The real leaders in PA Maastriano and Kelly Ward are proposing eliminating the no excuse mail in ballot and even repeal of act 77 that started this mess. Seth grove did the hearings on the house side. I have continually reminded him that the election workers do not have the skill or capability to manage the mail in ballot volume as evidenced by the lack of any process controls and most of the mail in ballot election process is not even audit-able.


26 posted on 06/15/2021 11:32:17 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: ConservativeInPA

A distributed count of the vote makes it incredibly difficult to introduce fraud in the counting process on a widespread basis.>>> I have lobbied for the same thing. and these local precinct workers sign their names on the counts. It is the no excuse mail in ballots that are counted at the county democrat workers and corrupt judges allowing the law to be violated. And no automated third party (edison and NYT) data feeds on the progress of voting until all votes are counted and certified.


27 posted on 06/15/2021 11:40:38 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Erik Latranyi

Eliminating absentee ballots is denying thousands of Americans their vote. While this may work consider the low travel volume, no mail in ballots is not realistic. Prior to Covid, my job requires extensive national travel and several times I have been out of the state (even country) during the election. I have also been in travel mandatory positions that required 4 to 6 weeks at a time overseas. My father-in-law is home bound due to age, amputation and illness (MS).


28 posted on 06/15/2021 11:45:02 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: taxcontrol

Those sound like legitimate absentee ballot excuses, which most states, including PA, have had for a long time. But none of this widespread mail-in ballot bull $hit. I used to travel 35 weeks per year, about 40% internationally. I always scheduled my business to be home for election day. Voting was that important to me. I would reluctantly concede to the use of an absentee ballot in that situation. Negotiations for election reform have to start as a polar opposite to the current system in PA.


29 posted on 06/15/2021 1:01:07 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ConservativeInPA
I also agree that mail in ballots are over used and provide an opportunity for ballot stuffing. Here in Colorado, it is one of the reasons why the legislature was switched to Dem and why we have a Dem gov.

I also believe that a serialized water mark on the ballot and mail in envelop, would enable the detection of some ballot stuffing attempts. One recommendation to improve mail in ballot security, would be to require a 4 character alpha numeric number be included on the mail in ballot sleeve. The voter would call the mail in ballot authorization hot line, if their phone number and other details provided matched those provided during registration, they would receive their 4 digit verification code that is randomly genrated and recorded. They would then write that code on the mail in sleeve in addition to signature. If you used uppercase, lowercase, numbers and common punctuation, you would have about 30+ million possible codes for each sleeve.

To be accepted, the authorization code, and mail in ballot sleeve serial number must match. If not, the ballot is not accepted / counted.

This then puts a high amount of trust (authorization codes to mail in sleeve serial number database) into one file that will have to be highly protected. If copied out of the election office, it would allow the potiential for election fraud.

30 posted on 06/15/2021 1:32:33 PM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: taxcontrol

Sorry, I worked in IT for 30+ years. There needs to be limited use of technology. I am not willing to pay for technology that will evolve and have to pay for it again when tried and true human power solves the problem. Water marks on ALL ballots are fine. That’s a printing issue, not a computer issue. That includes absentee ballots. Note that I did not write mail-in ballots. If absentee ballots are kept to a minimum, that is there are valid excuses; handicapped, business, and military; then the percentage of absentee ballots will be so low that there is actually little chance that the absentee ballots will affect the outcome of the election. They still need to be counted, unlike some places in the past that would only count absentee ballots if the election results would be changed if the absentee ballots were counted. This goes to the principle of every legal vote counts. The key to election integrity with absentee ballots is the acquisition of ballot - same requirements as voting in person. You have to show up with an ID, in person, to get the ballot. Then your name and address on your ID has to match what is on the voter registration rolls. Plenty of time should be allowed for that.


31 posted on 06/15/2021 4:02:59 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I also have worked in IT for 30+ years. Most of that time in cyber security, specifically penetration testing. Believe me, I know how easy it is to compromise systems. I also know that systems such as absentee ballots can be made to be more difficult to counterfeit, intercept and fraudulently ballot stuff.

Right now, there are virtually NO protections over ballots or the mail in security sleeve. Just about any applied control would be better than what we have now.

Water marks and serialized consecutive numbering would make it very difficult to pre-print a valid ballot and works to mitigate counterfeiting of ballots. There are more controls such as possession of a ballot without authorization should be a crime along with importing of ballots.

Having absentee voters obtain a random generated code to put on the mail in security sleeve works to protect against interception.

Absentee ballots not returned correctly (signed, correct serial number on the mailing sleeve, authorization code, etc. work to mitigate the changes of fraudulent ballot stuffing.

I would also point out that the 2020 election was not stolen for a lack of laws or controls over ballots. It was stolen due to a lack of ENFORCEMENT.


32 posted on 06/15/2021 4:26:14 PM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: JoSixChip

Election reform, ........stealing is encouraged, illegals, the dead, voting several times is also encouraged,


33 posted on 06/16/2021 12:38:29 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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