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‘I’m young, I don’t need it’: Ultra-Orthodox non-vaxxers dig in their heels
The Times of Israel ^ | 5/25/2021 | NATHAN JEFFAY

Posted on 05/25/2021 12:49:48 PM PDT by Mount Athos

His wife said she is influenced by reports of doctors in the US who won’t take the vaccine. The vaccine is “all new,” she said, “and we don’t know what it causes.” Over the next month or two Israel will start vaccinating 12- to 15-year-olds.

“My son had the first shot but doesn’t want to take the second,” said Trau, who is fully vaccinated. “He felt unwell after the first shot and just doesn’t want the second.”

Abergil’s decision comes down to personal mistrust of the shots. “I’m concerned about the vaccines,” he said. “My concern is what impact they’ll have on us in 15 years — we just don’t know.”

... His vaccinated father, standing a few steps away in more secular attire and a knitted yarmulke, said that his son’s opinion is “his problem” and that he will cave at some point. “Sooner or later you’ll need a vaccine to do anything, even buy bread,” he said, suggesting the pressure will sway his son.

A major center of the Haredi community, in Beit Shemesh only 29.5% of the population have received a first shot and 26% have received both shots. These figures are around half the national averages.

Some Beit Shemesh residents say they have been won around to vaccines for themselves, but aren’t so sure when it comes to their kids, which is significant as Israel is expected to soon become the first country to offer shots to all teenagers.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antivax; fauxccine; fauxccineroulette; israel; vaccine; vaccineroulette
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1 posted on 05/25/2021 12:49:48 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/12/16/senior-israeli-rabbis-urge-ultra-orthodox-public-to-receive-covid-19-vaccine/

JNS.org – Senior rabbis in Israel on Tuesday issued a decree urging the ultra-Orthodox public to receive the coronavirus vaccine, declaring that “according to all acceptable medical parameters, it has been proven that the vaccines are safe.”

The decree was issued by rabbis Chaim Kanievsky, Gershon Edelstein, Shalom Cohen and Elimelech Firer, considered Israel’s greatest poskim (decisors). It is believed that the decree will he helpful in curbing morbidity in the haredi community.


2 posted on 05/25/2021 12:54:06 PM PDT by jjotto (Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: jjotto

Who cares you take it or you don’t.


3 posted on 05/25/2021 12:56:19 PM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE )
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To: kenmcg

I don’t care.


4 posted on 05/25/2021 1:00:36 PM PDT by sport
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To: jjotto

“Senior rabbis in Israel on Tuesday issued a decree urging the ultra-Orthodox public to receive the coronavirus vaccine, declaring that “according to all acceptable medical parameters, it has been proven that the vaccines are safe.”

Interesting, so the Rabbis must be referring to the totally non-existing long term studies on these vaccines, many using totally new MRNA technology.

Maybe they travelled in the future and came back with total certainty that they cannot possibly cause long term unintended consequences.


5 posted on 05/25/2021 1:02:02 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

“Safe” but undocumented side effect, because its still unknown, that it sterilizes you. And you will never know until its too late to fix it.

I don’t care about that happening to myself, nor does my wife. But my kids? Why risk that possibility when the kids aren’t even all that affected by the virus?


6 posted on 05/25/2021 1:13:33 PM PDT by NicoDon
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To: Mount Athos

I’m old and probably still wouldn’t have gotten sick for more than a week if I had caught the virus. But who needs to get sick for even a week when a free vaccine is available? So I got the shots a few months ago, and, so far, so good.


7 posted on 05/25/2021 1:24:09 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam, )
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Yeah, totally. Sounds legit. Who needs to get sick even for a week when you can just be a lab rat for untested drugs, right? A few months, eh? Well, since a normal testing cycle would be 10 years, I’d say you’ve got about 9 1/2 left to find out whether your brilliant decision making worked out or not. Best of luck with that.


8 posted on 05/25/2021 1:31:57 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Mount Athos

Ammo. Long terrible referenced history of the evil vaccine. Cartels

https://phoreveryoung.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/the-worst-cover-up-in-the-history-of-the-world-vaccinations-are-monkey-business/


9 posted on 05/25/2021 1:49:01 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (Arizona !!!! Now the TRUMP TRAIN is getting back on TRACK ! TRUTH! FREEDOM ! LIBERTY! )
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To: Mount Athos

12-15 years old.....this vaccine push id absolutely criminal.


10 posted on 05/25/2021 1:56:02 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: walkingdead

No, it is not criminal and this vaccine roll out is important. You are now seeing its fruits as the country is now being able to open up as deaths and hospitalizations go down (just as president Trump predicted).

If you want to see criminal go to India or Brazil and get back to me as their strategies have killed a lot of people unnecessarily.

Posting misleading information (as many do on this board) on these safe and effective vaccines is disappointing at times.


11 posted on 05/25/2021 2:06:24 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Mount Athos

Nice to see some of the Israelis have the wisdom to know a trap when the see one. G-d bless them!


12 posted on 05/25/2021 2:17:25 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: hawkaw

The numbers for any virus go down in warmer months. Especially when the parameters for testing changed with the new regime in DC - the numbers during President Trump’s time were inflated dramatically for political gain. This is undeniable.

Nice to see someone here that pays no attention, and regurgitates Biden’s talking points.


13 posted on 05/25/2021 2:20:46 PM PDT by datura
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To: Mount Athos

The reason why the young don’t really need it (unless they are fat and spend all their days playing video games) is the level of D3 in thier bodies. All you need to fight this crap is D3, zinc, vit C and magnesium.


14 posted on 05/25/2021 2:21:07 PM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less)
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To: hawkaw

You are a delusional. Forced vaccines for a 99.8% survivable virus? Are you a card carrying communist? Reputable Doctors all over the world, including the honorable Dr Rand Paul, blowing the whistle on these vaccines and you know more than all of them…and Senator Paul!? Do you intend to break our doors in to force us? Or perhaps exclude us from society?


15 posted on 05/25/2021 2:22:34 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: kenmcg

“Who cares you take it or you don’t.”

Today, probably nobody. Six months from now ... the government will care. A lot.


16 posted on 05/25/2021 2:26:19 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Faith, not fear. Faith, not faintheartedness.)
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To: Mount Athos

I’m 74 and very healthy. Not taking it.


17 posted on 05/25/2021 2:29:31 PM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: hawkaw

“Posting misleading information (as many do on this board) on these safe and effective vaccines is disappointing at times.”

You should take a taste of your own medicine re “misleading information”. I think the phrase, “safe and effective vaccines” can be legitimately used:
1. When the shots actually ARE “vaccines”, and
2. In 10-15 years when the industry-standard testing period ends.


18 posted on 05/25/2021 2:30:59 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Faith, not fear. Faith, not faintheartedness.)
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To: hawkaw
Where are you?

You are at FREE Republic....

Do you know what FREE means????

19 posted on 05/25/2021 2:33:23 PM PDT by Osage Orange (DRT)
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To: hawkaw

You do not really believe 12-15 year olds need a vaccine do you?

Criminal, there is no risk to them from covid, none whatsoever.


20 posted on 05/25/2021 3:07:35 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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