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To: srmanuel

“I love when countries like France and Germany start issuing red lines to Russia with no real ability to back it up....”

Military spending in 2020:

Russia - $60.6 billion

United Kingdom - $61.5 billion
France - $55.0 billion
Germany - $51.3 billion
Italy - $29.3 billion
Poland - $12.04 billion

Russia is not the USSR that could easily overrun Europe. If Putin wants to throw down with the Europeans, the world will learn very quickly how small a country Russia is today.


13 posted on 04/17/2021 12:49:56 PM PDT by Renfrew
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To: Renfrew

Russia fighting from their homeland would be quite formidable. They’re weapons technology and warfighter ability could overrun the whole of Europe without US or Brit support.


17 posted on 04/17/2021 12:57:59 PM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: Renfrew

I agree with you, but you and I both know that NATO and specifically Germany and France would not be provoking Russia without the USA being involved....

Way back when in 1941 Germany had a technological edge and probably was outspending Russia significantly and for a year inflicted heavy loses on Russia...

France also had a large army with more tanks than Germany and was overrun in no time...and that included the British as well...

There is a long history of foreign powers underestimating Russia only to get bogged down and suffering a miserable defeat....

All I’m saying is why antagonize Russia is NATO and USA really ready to go to war over Ukraine, I know as an American I could care less about them


23 posted on 04/17/2021 1:19:55 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Renfrew

France ran out of bombs taking out Ghaddafi. No idea where that 55 billion goes but it’s not toward anything actually useful.


29 posted on 04/17/2021 1:40:57 PM PDT by TarasBulbous
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