Loose terms will get you nowhere. It's most of what's on the thread like "correlation factor". The fact is that Hawaii sent a piece of paper to the Obama WH. That's not in dispute except by people who believe in aliens. The State of Hawaii vouched for that paper. The person who actually vouched for it drowned later, but who cares. That piece of paper really did get sent.
Next the WH scanned it, did partial OCR, printed copies and handed them out. They also showed the original from Hawaii to some idiot reporter who knew nothing about anything. They deliberately made it look like they were hiding something. That's how they played the birthers
You can argue all you want that Hawaii "forged" a piece of paper and sent it to the WH. Or you can say they never sent anything and the WH "forged" it themselves. The first is sort of plausible. The second is ludicrous although it does meet the definition of forgery. Don't be a chump. Use your brain. Hawaii sent the paper, period.
“ The fact is that Hawaii sent a piece of paper to the Obama WH. That’s not in dispute except by people who believe in aliens.” - Palmer
Incorrect: Obama sent a Perkins Coie lawyer to Hawaii , and that attorney returned with what they claimed were 2 copies from the Hawaii archives.
Neither of these 2 “official” paper copies were subjected to expert analysis. Unless you think Samantha Guthrie is an expert.
Are you intentionally giving false and derogatory statements? Or just really misguided and misinformed?