[Richard Axtell]

All these unfortunate deaths are starting to turn me off on the idea of getting the vaccination. Not sure what to do now.

[Bulwyf]

It never of should of been a question. They’ve lied the whole time about it, why would you trust them now on a vaccine?

[Stentor]

All these unfortunate deaths are starting to turn me off on the idea of getting the vaccination. Not sure what to do now.

We all have to take what's coming to us but we don't have to help it along.

[Bob434]

Hagler ‘may have’ had an allergic reaction to the vaccine- don’t know if the article mentions it or not- not going there to find out- IF he did, then allergic reactions are rare- extremely rare- Deaths from the vaccines, even suspected deaths, are like 600 or so out of over 200 million in the us alone- so far anyways- that could change- but it seems like Hagler might have had an allergic reaction- this happens even with flu shots- but again is rare.

It also could have totally unrelated to the vaccine. Hagler’s profession was pretty a pretty brutal one- even when not fighting- the training was brutal too-

Wasn’t it hagler who had heart issues? Or was that the other fella, holyfield? Can’t remember now- but at any rate- would need to seem ore info on the cause of death- my guess is one of hte two scenarios-

[LeonardFMason]

Oh the irony!

Many of the same people that maintain “You can’t blame Covid for all the deaths being blamed on Covid. There were comorbidities and some of these people were really sick.” are now blaming every death occurring in people getting the Covid vaccine on the Covid vaccine.

Maybe, just MAYBE, Hagler had heart disease or something.

[GreatRoad]

If you have the anti-body from having recovered from the Covid, you won’t need the jab. You could get your blood tested to find out.

[ransomnote]

If they focused on what is best for the public, they'd let us use time tested treatments like HCQ. They withheld treatments that worked, people died as a result. Intially, all treatment was banned until a person was hospitalized and then the recommendations for ventilation were too aggressive, damaging infected tissues. People died needlessly.

By withholding HCQ, not even giving patients a 'right to try' it, even though it had been in use for Lupus for 60 years, they met criteria needed for them to skip appropriate testing of these new gene therapies. They say they are "FDA Approved" but they are not. They heave EUA - Emergency Use Authorization by the FDA. This is different. It means they skipped 2 years of testing and, based on urgent need and LACK OF ANY OTHER TREATMENT,  rushed it to the public, thereby giving the public a 'right to try it'.

 

Ivermectin, HCQ, Quercitin - there are treatments available. I had this illness in Feb of last year and did not require medication. Heat works. Overheating the room (accidentally) and then sleeping in it for 4 days - brought the illness down. I realize that I may need medications if I get it again  - but there are medications. We have to advocate for ourselves.

Dr. Zelenko has a protocol that can be followed with prescription drugs, or can be put together out of over the counter supplements.

Dr. Zelenko is quoted talking about taking over the counter supplements to prevent Covid:
"ASK YOUR DOCTOR, but i recommend anyone over 20 to take quercetin 500mg one day and elemental zinc 25mg one a day indefinitely in order to prevent Covid-19 and potentially some other viral infections— Dr. Zev Zelenko (@zev_dr) July 31, 2020"

Dr. Zelenko's protocol is as follows, and then I'll put his research/data link below that.

Zelenko Protocol 1
Treatment Plan for Patients with Covid-19 symptoms
Prehospital Management

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko
Website: Vladimirzelenkomd.com

Fundamental Principles
Treat patients based on clinical suspicion as soon as possible, preferably within the first 5 days of symptoms. Perform PCR testing, but do not withhold treatment pending results.

Risk Stratify Patients
Low risk patient - Younger than 45, no comorbidities, and clinically stable
High risk patient - Older than 45, younger than 45 with comorbidities, or clinically unstable

Treatment Options
Low risk patients - over the counter options:
1. Elemental Zinc 50mg 1 time a day for 7 days 2
2. Quercetin 500mg 2 times a day for 7 days or 3
Epigallocatechin-gallate (EGCG) 400mg 1 time a day for 7 days 4
3. Vitamin C 1000mg 1 time a day for 7 days
4. Vitamin D3 5000iu 1 time a day for 7 days

High risk patients
1. Elemental Zinc 50mg 1 time a day for 7 days
2. Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) 200mg 2 times a day for 7 days
If HCQ is not available, Quercetin 500mg 3 times a day for 7 days or
EGCG 400mg 2 times a day for 7 days
3. Azithromycin 500mg 1 time a day for 5 days or
Doxycycline 100mg 2 times a day for 7 days
4. Vitamin C 1000mg 1 time a day for 7 days
5. Vitamin D3 50000iu 1 time a day for 1 or 2 days

1 https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202007.0025/v1
2 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7365891/
3 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7318306/
4 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jf5014633

BH
Other treatment options
1. Ivermectin 6mg 2 times a day for 1 or 2 days 5
2. Budesonide 1mg/2cc solution via nebulizer 2 times a day for 7 days 6
3. Dexamethasone 8mg 1 time a day for 7 days 7
4. Blood thinners (i.e. Lovenox) 8
5. Outpatient monoclonal antibodies such as REGN-COV2 cocktail or Bamlanivimab
6. Home IV fluids and oxygen

TRY TO KEEP PATIENTS OUT OF THE HOSPITAL

5 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

6 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7392554/

7 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2021436

8 https://www.onlinejacc.org/content/76/1/122?_ga=2.33698596.423106752.1597365568-1776897998.159
7365568

There's also Ivermectin - I've read entire families taking that stuff for prophylaxis without harm. Here's another FReeper's post on Ivermectin which I'll put below:

~~~~~

IVERMECTIN human Oral dosages are available from many Medical Professionals across the World.

Please listen, save your family or friends. Ivermectin is in use for preventing and treating Covid all over the world.

https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/Marik-Covid-Protocol-Summary.pdf

Ivermectin 12mg tablets are or were available from Alldaychemist. ( 70kg, avg adult dose is 12mg )

Dosing is very simple for adults, no serious underlying conditions

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3928268/posts?page=1968#1968

VERMECTIN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgOAaLmoa68&feature=emb_logo
https://www.maximpulse.com/permethrin/ivermectin-calculating-a-dose.html

Ivermectin 1.87 percent paste - dosage at onset of symptoms.

.018cc per pound
Example
200lb-3.7cc
140lb-2.6cc
100lb-1.8cc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Freeper Uncle Miltie added a comment with this link to study results for ivermectin for those interested:

https://ivmmeta.com/

I'm still looking at the American Thinker article in disbelief!

How safe are the COVID vaccines? Here is how COVID vaccines rank among 94 vaccine types in terms of reported post-vaccine adverse effects.
American Thinker ^ | 03/11/2021 | Randall Hoven

Posted on 3/11/2021, 7:22:38 AM by SeekAndFind

I’ll bet you haven’t heard this: more congenital anomalies/birth defects and emergency room visits were reported after getting a COVID vaccine in the U.S. than after any of the other 93 vaccine types in the CDC’s VAERS database. And more deaths than 92 other vaccine types.

Here is how COVID vaccines rank among 94 vaccine types in terms of reported post-vaccine adverse effects.

• Congenital anomaly/birth defect: 1.
• Emergency room: 1.
• Death: 2.
• Life threatening: 5.
• “Serious” adverse effects: 7.
• Hospitalized: 10.
• Permanent disability: 12.
• Total adverse effects: 15.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

One thing to keep in mind with these numbers is that COVID vaccines have been around for less than three months. Most of the other 93 vaccine type have been in use for years. The Pfizer vaccine was authorized for emergency use on December 11, 2020, Moderna on Dec. 18, and Jannsen on February 27, 2021. And most doses were not given until late February. More than half the doses given to date (March 10) were given in the last month (since Feb. 10).

[\/\/ayne]

https://c19study.com

[saintgermaine]

In case you don’t feel like taking a chance with the one of these quick developed “Shots” like I have, here is an alternate suggestion of a regime comprised of vitamins and nutrients which will help in case you catch this virus. This regime as suggested by an MD will NOT PREVENT you from catching this virus, but neither will these vaccines, but it will help to lessen the impact and get over it quickly and once you do, you will have a natural acquired immunity.

The line up is as follows QUERCCETIN + ZINC + D + C + NAC + MELATONINE + B-COMPLEX. All of them very beneficial to your overall health if you catch this crazy virus or not. This also works well against the flu as well as colds as it will boost your immune system greatly. The catch is that it needs to be in your system BEFORE you think you may have caught one of these bugs.

And if you really want to go all out to kill this virus keep some BHT on hand which can be taken in conjunction with the above regime, as it will kill lipid covered viruses with the covid 19 being one of them, should you have the bad luck to catch this virus. Also available at Amazon.

I have been taking a very similar formulation for years and knock on wood have not had any problems with the flu and cut short any colds I may have encountered.

[roving]

If anyone dies from the vaccine, and they knew aborted babies were involved in any way, I have no sympathy if the person dies from it. If they had no idea, then I feel sorry they fell for a hoax thinking COVID was another Black Death like plague.

[metmom]

In before the vaccine side effects deniers.

The party line is..... *Something else killed them it wasn’t the vaccine because the vaccine is perfectly safe. Nobody has dropped dead on my toes yet.*

It will never be the vaccine because if they admitted a problem with the vaccine, that would be the end of their cash cow. Then they’d have all these doses they can’t get rid of and they’d lose a bundle of money on the whole deal.

[ransomnote]

Of 93 vaccines in the CDC's VAER database (voluntary reporting of adverse reactions), a specific Polio Vaccine developed in 2004 had more reported deaths. Then Pfizer and Moderna's Covid-19 deaths are next in magnitude, followed by PReVNAR 13, another Pfizer vaccine which was FDA Approved in February 24, 2010.

So about 1 month into release of the Pfizer and Moderna Covid-19 Vaccines, they are #2 and #3 on the list out of 93 Vaccines for reported deaths. The vaccine which was #1 in causing the most deaths had been in use since 2004. The vaccine ranked #4 in causing death had been in use since 2010.

NOte the reminder that reporting a death does not mean the vaccine caused the death. Tracking or reporting deaths or other reactions can eventually lead to analysis which point to problems with the vaccines or rule out the vaccine as the cause. But unfortunately many reports must be made first in order for a pattern to be detected, and then time spent being evaluated. :(

I started looking at this database after I found AmericanThinker's article on FR:

How safe are the COVID vaccines? Here is how COVID vaccines rank among 94 vaccine types in terms of reported post-vaccine adverse effects.
American Thinker ^ | 03/11/2021 | Randall Hoven

Posted on 3/11/2021, 7:22:38 AM by SeekAndFind

I believe as AmericanThinker has turned the light on the numbers, this database will soon be distorted. They may not be able to remove reported deaths (too conspicuous) but I suspect they may increase reported deaths for other vaccines. WE'll see if I am too cynical for my own good!

[Dave W]

People die from the flu vaccine, too. Life is not risk free. Walking down steps is not risk free.

[afchief]

NO vaccine is safe. They are ALL an assault on your immune system..........PERIOD!!

If Vaccines Are Safe, Then Why Did Congress Give Manufacturers Special Legal Immunity? Why Are They Above the Law?

https://healthwyze.org/reports/200-if-vaccines-are-safe-then-why-did-congress-give-them-legal-immunity-why-are-they-above-the-law

[Justa]

The best option IMO is the first shot of Pfizer and skip the 2nd.

[Parley Baer]

I am not getting the vaccine. A neighbor and his wife received the shot a couple of weeks ago and they are still feeling the side effects from it. They are still feeling a little sick.