Posted on 01/28/2021 4:07:38 AM PST by Kaslin
“OK. Without a third party, then, for me, and millions like me, there will be no party. I am through with the republicans. And as far as voting: this seems to be a waste of time.”
You want what you think is the easier political life, while the rest of us are willing to do what GOP pro-lifers and GOP Liberatarians have been willing to work hard and fight for for decades - winning inside the GOP.
The GOPe and their RINOs have mostly been the losers in most recent past GOP races. While you want to slink away to a failed third party, the rest of us will stand and continue to fight for the heart and soul of the GOP. It’s a slog, not a sprint. Results come in increments.
See post #158...
You offered the most self-defeating line of thought on the matter.
Who is the “they” you speak of?
You lump all good GOPers in with the bad, ignoring who acted, who did or not have a position to act from, and many other factors. In effect you might as well be saying all the 70+ million voters who voted for Trump, minus yourself, let Trump down.
Your position has never built any party. It always throws the baby out with the bathwater.
See post #158...
third party might not work well, but on the other hand we rarely win whenever trying to primary a RINO, so we need to do something differently.
The way I see it, if I get stuck paying $25,000 in taxes (or more) for the privilege of keeping my firearms and magazines, I have already been defeated, by my own country no less. So, if it comes to that, I’m just not playing for team America anymore and I think you’ll see a lot of people coming around to a similar conclusion if we end up going down this road.
“by the GOP”
A lie.
You take the actions of some and blame all, as if all others than those with the power to act agreed with the results YOU claim was EVERYONE in office in the GOP’s fault.
You ignore all the GOP office holders who actually agree with you. So you would just abandon them instead of joining and working harder with, and strengthing them. No you would leave and make them weaker.
Try a new name that resonates:
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I don't ignore all the GOP office holders who agree with me. I vote for them -- including many who don't agree with me all the time.
I don't donate money to the GOP, however -- under any circumstances. I'm not a Republican, and have never been affiliated with a political party. I'm a conservative nationalist.
Needs a NEW name:
See post #157...
Sorry Kurt
If Trump doesn’t take over GOPe
I’m going with him and his son and so forth
That's what it's coming to.
And if it comes to that, do you really think I care if the Chinese and Mexicans walk in here and take over? I'll have a nice stiff drink and LOL on my way to hell with the rest of you.
This one is slightly bigger
Weird how that happens
Timing
Good post
I’m not going back to having war with GOPe 95% of the times
Aside from judges ....what’s the point
So we vote federally only for sake of judges
I heard his son on Rush fill in yesterday
I’m not sure....I think Trump would like to squash the GOPe and bring in the ones who he sees as loyal
The GOPe did almost nothing to support their landslide elected candidate
I knew on 11-4 that Mitch was not on board and wanted Trump gone
Saying to clean out GOPe and primary everyone and create new Trump led GOPe is as tall an order as creating a new Google and Facebook and Twitter and Apple etc
Trump Jr talked about this
These are monopolies in practice
They said for us to leave and start our own platforms
Which we have
So what did they do
They killed those platforms best of their ability
Nope
Platitudes aren’t working anymore
I’m third party prone
If Trump takes his 75-80 million with him he’s got a new party pronto at least nationally
I would make the case that the U.S. Supreme Court decision in Bostock v. Clayton County -- which extended civil rights protection to homosexual and "transgender" people (whatever the hell they are) -- played a much bigger role in Trump's loss last November than most people realize.
The decision itself was bad enough, but having the majority opinion written by Neil Gorsuch exposed the whole "originalist judge" label to be an absolute fraud. When a Trump nominee can fabricate sh!t as law as well as any zany leftist, you have no reason to hold out Federal court nominations as an important issue in a presidential election anymore.
That's so correct...these, "a third party can't work...look what happened when Ross Perot ran" yappers don't seem to understand that president Trump received more votes than any incumbent in history.
Comparing Perot's 1992 Independent party campaign with Donald Trump is a fools errand...different time, different people and the three irrefutable examples of GOP sellout you post are reasons for another third party shot.
Plus, I don't recall ever the disgust that so many Republicans have with the establishment GOP.
That's so correct...these, "a third party can't work...look what happened when Ross Perot ran" yappers don't seem to understand that president Trump received more votes than any incumbent in history.
Comparing Perot's 1992 Independent party campaign with Donald Trump is a fools errand...different time, different people and the three irrefutable examples of GOP sellout you post are reasons for another third party shot.
Plus, I don't recall ever the disgust that so many Republicans have with the establishment GOP.
Plus judges were obviously intimidated by the mob
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