Unless he had Cranial Surgery or a Head Slope board binding like some Tribes do to the Babies. Posted on 01/26/2021 11:38:45 PM PST by mabarker1
IIRC the LEO’s on Ashli’s side of the doors were making Hand Signals to someone on the other side of the doors.
Well, What do you know. Seems the dude done it after all.
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I saw the video of the guy shooting her and he was a White guy or so it appeared to me at the time. I think this fellow is being set up as their fall guy. Maybe he will walk but he’s not the guy I saw. That man was White.
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Apparently on Vacation.
>> IIRC the LEO’s on Ashli’s side of the doors were making Hand Signals to someone on the other side of the doors.
That fact is not being disputed by anybody except QAnon conspiracy nuts who must know their theory has a showstopping whopper of a hole in it.
Four different camera videos obtained from protesters (supported by an eyewitness account on TV news given by one of those protestors who is clearly visible in three of those videos) that hand signals AND verbal warnings “he’s got a gun” were repeatedly given by people on Ashli’s side of the barricade, to the people around them.
Anyone who insists Ashli was shot without warning needs to explain to the rest of us mere mortals, how the existence of so many different signals from so many different angles reached everybody else who was pressed up against those doors, and in the corridor, and in the adjacent rooms, but didn’t reach Ashli who was practically stood in the center of all that messaging.
The alternative explanation is that there was so much noise and confusion on the protesters’ side that the warnings were very difficult to pick out even if you were stood right next to the people giving the warnings.
This explains how Ashli “ignored” the warnings. But it then undermines the theory that someone in the corridor or in a side room off the corridor was capable of picking up crystal clear messages from the LEO’s.
Finally, the other reason I want to see this stupid argument put to bed is that winning this argument would damage our position on the Second Amendment. The gun control lobby will run with it, and we’ll regret it.
Imagine you’ve been entrusted to protect dignitaries from behind a defensive barricade. You are single-handedly staring at a very large and very noisy mob that’s already broken into a secure part of the building and is breaking down the last door. You suspect most of the crowd is harmless but it only takes one lunatic to turn a benign protest into a massacre.
Despite repeated warnings, one person climbs through. Whoever that person is, they’re clearly not being deterred by the barricade, the verbal warnings, the signals and maybe not even the sight of a gun being pointed at them is slowing them down.
Is that person a clear and present danger to yourself? Do you have the right to use lethal force to protect yourself and the people you’re protecting? The person is maybe five seconds away from being in stabbing range.
If you want to argue that giving anything more than a warning shot in the air at this point would be “unreasonable”, well done! You’re making the same argument that a libtard who’s arguing that cops should be prosecuted every time they shoot first.
If you want to go one step further and argue that the man who shot Ashli committed first degree murder, brilliant; let’s all just give the gun control movement a nice little precedent for every future case where a cop being charged at by someone who will not stop or back down, makes the decision to take the shot. “Hey, we may be libtards but even the Trumpers are with us on this!”
No, I read about it a week or so also. Posters here on FR kept asking “who dunit” so I went looking for what I had read previously and Posted this Thread. I got more responses than I thought it would but most of them just raise more questions than answers.
Sorry I didn’t Reply sooner.
Tim Mc Veigh was setup and a scapegoat. The fedz blew up their own building.
Was he part of the plot?
Unless he had Cranial Surgery or a Head Slope board binding like some Tribes do to the Babies. Cowering in the Cloak Room ?
Kinda looks like it, doesn’t it ?
I have no idea.
I think you're arrow is too steep in the right picture.
Like I said, I don't trust the government to provide accurate information anymore, but I do trust them to cover it up. So, until I see credible evidence from them, I'm sticking with my assumption that he killed himself over grief from killing Ashli Babbitt.
-PJ
[Political Junkie Too #31] That bracelet may turn out to be for Bailey what the size 12 "Bruno Magli" shoes were to OJ Simpson.[Political Junkie Too #33] I mention the comparison to OJ Simpson and the size 12 Bruno Magli shoes. It can't be proven that the size 12 Bruno Magli shoeprints found in the blood at the house was worn by Simpson, but he was photographed previously wearing Bruno Magli shoes.
Then there is the question of how many people wear Bruno Magli shoes, how many of them wear size 12 shoes, and how many of them would have the occasion to be at Nicole Simpson's house?
It turns out the shoeprint evidence and testimony was not all that impressive.
There was photographic evidence that O.J. Simpson wore a pair of Bruno Magli shoes. There was no evidence to establish that a pair of Bruno Magli shoes were at the crime scene. Bruno Magli was a designer, not a manufacturer. The Bruno Magli uppers were made by a company called 4C and the soles were manufactured by a company called Sigma Gomma. Sigma Gomma sold the U2887 sole to at least 20 different companies that manufactured shoes.
Footwear Impression Evidence, Detection, Recovery and Examination, Second Edition, 2000, CRC Press LLC, by William J. Bodziak
At page 445:
The efforts to connect O.J. Simpson with the actual purchase transaction of the Bruno Magli shoes was never successful.[...]
It is common for manufacturers to create molds for shoe soles, which have interchangeÂable name or logo plates. This allows the manufacturer to use the same molds for more than one customer, by using more than one name in the mold. The interchangeable name plates can be any shape, but they are most commonly oval or rectangular. This was the case with the U2887 soles samples. When I received the samples from SILGA, I noticed there was an oval shape in the arch area of the sole where the brand name would appear. One of the molds, shown in Figure 15.10 with the oval slug bearing the name Bruno Magli resting on it, depicts how those slugs are changed. The sole samples I received shared three different names. One of these, of course, was the Bruno Magli name. The other soles contained either the name LORD, or the Italian words, ANTICA CUOIERIA. ANTICA CUOIERIA is not a brand name, but when translated mean something like “maker of fine footwear”.
At 445-456:
These names, located just in front of the raised heel, are held off the ground and do not record in an impression on a hard surface. None of the Bundy impressions revealed any impression from this area of the shoe. This meant that, based upon the information provided by the crime scene impressions, the soles (and shoes) could not be limited to only those bearing the Bruno Magli name, but could have been made by shoes having the LORD name, if any of the LORD shoes had been sold in the U.S.SILGA, once again, was very cooperative in providing the names of the shoe companies who purchased the soles manufactured with the LORD name. Although the total sales of the LORD soles was relatively small, it was still necessary to contact approximately 20 shoe companies who had made shoes with those soles, to determine if they had exported any of the LORD shoes to the U.S.
At the O.J. criminal trial:
There was one other name that they did have that went into this area, I can never remember how to spell it, but it is a-n-t-i-c-a, and I believe the last name is c-o-u-r-i-c-i-a or c-a, and it basically means tradition of fine shoe making in Italian, I'm told, and it was only for the display shoes, they had never sold a shoe with that name on it.
In the book, (using accurate spelling) it is "ANTICA CUOIERIA. is not a brand name, but when translated means something like 'maker of fine footwear'."
Here the precise scientific translation, after years of pondering it, is "something like 'maker of fine footwear'." Surely, an expert can do better than that.
It is not something like maker of fine footwear either.
ANTICA is not too difficult. Aside from its relationship to antique, in context it could translate to "time honored" or "old fashioned."
CUOIERIA translates as a leather goods shop. Antica Quoieria may be translated as time honored leather goods shop, or perhaps, Ye Olde Leather Goods Shoppe.
As to ANTICA CUOIERIA not being a brand name, let me help a brother out,
The shoeprints at Bundy could have come from any one of more than 20 companies not named Bruno Magli that used the Silga Gomma sole. There is no reason why the shoeprints made at Bundy had to be made by shoes sold only in the United States or Puerto Rico. They could have been purchased anywhere and worn or carried into the United States.
Capitol Hill bump for later....
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