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To: jstolzen
"What Amazon did was clear violation of Antitrust"

Not to defend Amazon, but this is laughable. Amazon's AWS service is a hosted solution provider. There's got to be 1,000 of them out there. The largest players include Amazon AWS, Microsoft Azure, Google Cloud Platform, IBM Cloud, Oracle Cloud, Alibaba Cloud, and others. Amazon AWS doesn't even have half the market, let alone a monopoly, and there's no evidence whatsoever of collusion for price fixing or anything else between those major players.

To say nothing of the fact that what they effectively are is a rented compute and storage company. And when you break down what the "cloud providers" do, you add Rackspace, NTT America, Equinix, RagingWire, and 1,000 other players to the market. There isn't one platform that everyone must use. There are literally over 1,000 depending on the specific mix of features and integration and pricing and so on that you're after. Antitrust? What trust? Have a bad relationship with Amazon AWS? Go somewhere else. That's called capitalism.

"probably at least a dozen US laws on torturous business interference, breach of contract, monopolistic behavior, etc."

Zero chance of success. Amazon could put a first year law student on this case and it'd be a slam dunk. Have you ever read their ToS? It's about 6 miles long and gives them dozens of opportunities to to use to terminate your service at any time. Unless Parler somehow got service without agreeing to the Terms of Service (and they didn't), they're easily in violation a dozen different ways because pretty much anyone can be at Amazon's sole discretion. If you want to use their platform, that's the agreement you make. Otherwise, go elsewhere. There's literally 1,000 other providers in the marketplace. Monopolistic behavior? That would require anything remotely resembling a monopoly. And depending on how you want to slice up the market (whether you want to go with the insanely narrow definition of "cloud platform providers"), the worst you can claim is that Amazon AWS controls less than half the market. And that market share has been declining steadily as Microsoft Azure and others become bigger players.

That just isn't a monopoly. Like it or not, there's no case here. If the case survives an immediate dismissal, I'd be utterly shocked. But I won't be shocked. It's going nowhere.

156 posted on 01/11/2021 2:06:25 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“Zero chance of success.”

Welcome, new user!


159 posted on 01/11/2021 2:38:50 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Your post makes sense, but, if there are over 1000 other potential providers out there, how many would have features, capacity, etc., that would make sense for (or even be workable for) Parler?

How many could / would stand up to being pressured not to do business with Parler?

How long would it take for Parler to make the switch?

One thing is for sure, Parler remains offline @ present.

GAB appears to be online but frozen or totally overwhelmed.


168 posted on 01/11/2021 4:42:04 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

I wish I could take you up on your bet. I’ve read the filing. Unlike you, I suspect. And if Amazon COULD drop anyone at any time for any reason, there would be no value to a terms of service contract.


178 posted on 01/11/2021 5:52:31 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

I’ll be looking forward to OCI going forward.


188 posted on 01/11/2021 7:59:37 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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