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To: lodi90

[The vote to certify the rigged election that disenfranchised 75 million voters in the GOP Senate was 93-7. They are most certainly not in our coalition. Your GOP bootlicking posts are little more than buffoonery at this point. Only a few GOP hobbyists are buying what you are selling at this point.]


Like it or not, Perot’s two runs gave Slick Willy two terms. This time may be different, but I predict any mass exodus from the GOP will presage a golden age for the Democrats.

Re boot-licking - the way the game is played is no one has to lick anyone’s boots. That was during the age of kings, when not licking the king’s boots meant a one way ticket to the headsman. That did not mean courtiers did not have their own interests - boot-licking was a formality conducted at swordpoint until they got the opportunity to take the king’s head*.

What isn’t always understood is that the political process is inherently compromise-laden. There’s a bunch of pushing and shoving before we arrive at an outcome no one is completely satisfied with.

There is one surefire way to get everyone we want. It is to take power and put everyone who opposes us in the ground. I don’t see us having that capability today. So we stumble forward with our messy coalitions, go on several term third party benders during which we are humiliated electorally, before we end up back in the same old coalitions.

I expect we will see people try to break out of established patterns. But eventually, we will end up in the same place, with the Dems having put into effect laws that permanently set conservatives back. I am just hoping to skip the wasted years.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_dynasty
[During the final century of Merovingian rule, the kings were increasingly pushed into a ceremonial role. Actual power was increasingly in the hands of the mayor of the palace, the highest-ranking official under the king. In 656, the mayor Grimoald I tried to place his son Childebert on the throne in Austrasia. Grimoald was arrested and executed, but his son ruled until 662, when the Merovingian dynasty was restored. When King Theuderic IV died in 737, the mayor Charles Martel continued to rule the kingdoms without a king until his death in 741. The dynasty was restored again in 743, but in 751 Charles’s son, Pepin the Short, deposed the last king, Childeric III, and had himself crowned, inaugurating the Carolingian dynasty. ]


159 posted on 01/08/2021 8:59:18 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Any Republican who failed to support President Trump needs to face a ferocious and well financed primary challenge.

In most cases that would be adequate to convince the older ones to retire.

But—in the case of the U.S. Senate it would take six years for that strategy to play out...

and many here are very concerned what the country will look like in six years....


162 posted on 01/08/2021 9:03:17 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“will presage a golden age for the Democrats”

When they can print as many votes as they need, what more could they want?


202 posted on 01/08/2021 10:54:38 PM PST by dsc (Do not pray for easy lives; pray to be stronger men.)
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