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Karl Rove Corrects Stacey Abrams on Georgia Mail-in Ballot Numbers
Townhall ^ | 12/16/2020 | Leah Barkoukis

Posted on 12/16/2020 6:35:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Prepared with his signature whiteboard, Republican strategist Karl Rove assessed the accuracy of Stacey Abrams’s claims about the state of the Senate runoff races in Georgia, arguing she’s “either misleading or she’s uninformed.” 

On Monday, the former gubernatorial candidate said there’s an upward trend for Democrats so far. 

"This is a state that is almost evenly divided. The presidential election was decided by fewer than 12,000 votes. But what's at stake isn't divisive, what's at stake is relief for our communities," she said.

Abrams said that 1.2 million Georgians have requested absentee ballots. Of that 1.2 million, she said 85,000 of those applications for mail-in ballots come from voters who didn't cast ballots in November. (CBS)

Asked by Fox News’s Martha MacCallum how Republicans are feeling in the state, Rove said, “Well, I think pretty good,” before pivoting to address Abrams’s numbers. 

“She is either misleading or she’s uninformed,” Rove said. “She just said that there were 1.2 million people who’d requested a ballot, a mail-in ballot for the runoff, and that 1.3 million had done so in November. That’s not correct.”

He went on to explain: “In November, 1,740,795 people requested a mail-in ballot; 1,362,369 — actually exercised it, voted by mail, so today, the requests are half a million less, a third less than they were for the November election, and what you also need to remember is 600,000 of the people on the list for mail-in ballots, 600,000 of that 1.7 million are automatically on the list. They are on the list for a long time. They sign up for permanent mail-in ballots, so they’re counted as a request, but we don’t know whether or not they are actually going to vote.”

Karl Rove 'mystified' by Stacey Abrams' Georgia mail-in ballot count https://t.co/wxxnEcFNOw— Leah Barkoukis (@LeahBarkoukis) December 16, 2020

Rove said Abrams’s “implication” was that 1.2 million had already voted, which he argued was wrong, because only 52 percent of those who voted in the November election have returned their ballots so far. 

“I don’t know what her deal was there except to sort of raise expectations that they were already in the lead, but this is a fight to the finish and the Republicans are doing pretty good right now, they’ve got a long way to go,” he said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: georgia; mailinballots; runoff; senate
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1 posted on 12/16/2020 6:35:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What did Mitch promise the Trump voters he would do if given the majority? Silence, same old same old.


2 posted on 12/16/2020 6:36:29 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

If we’re depending on Karl Rove... it’s over.


3 posted on 12/16/2020 6:36:37 AM PST by brownsfan (Fix the schools, or nothing else we do matters.)
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To: 1Old Pro

“What did Mitch promise the Trump voters he would do if given the majority? “

There is only one reason Mitch wants the majority, so he can sell votes. If he’s minority leader, he doesn’t have anything to sell.


4 posted on 12/16/2020 6:37:36 AM PST by brownsfan (Fix the schools, or nothing else we do matters.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rove had Trump being reele3cted in a landslide


5 posted on 12/16/2020 6:43:39 AM PST by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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To: brownsfan

Turtle should have been told that he either backs Trump and sees to it Trump stays for 4 more OR we will not vote for republicans in the senate.


6 posted on 12/16/2020 6:45:59 AM PST by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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To: brownsfan
Nonsense.
Nobody is depending on Rove for anything. However, what he said was exactly right as others have pointed out in other threads, which is, “In November, 1,740,795 people requested a mail-in ballot; 1,362,369 — actually exercised it, voted by mail, so today, the requests are half a million less, a third less than they were for the November election, and what you also need to remember is 600,000 of the people on the list for mail-in ballots, 600,000 of that 1.7 million are automatically on the list.”

Abrams is talking nonsense and foaming at the mouth as usual.

7 posted on 12/16/2020 6:48:06 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: devane617

Wrong.


8 posted on 12/16/2020 6:48:38 AM PST by nwrep
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To: brownsfan

The purpose of retaining the Senate filibuster, is so that the minority party leadership always has something to sell.


9 posted on 12/16/2020 6:50:13 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yes, let's analyze fraud ridden BS.

I am so done with this.

10 posted on 12/16/2020 6:50:52 AM PST by riri (All of my heroes are banned from the internet)
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To: devane617
Rove had Trump being reele3cted in a landslide

He was right...

11 posted on 12/16/2020 6:51:38 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: SauronOfMordor
The purpose of retaining the Senate filibuster, is so that the minority party leadership always has something to sell.

It also prevents packing the Supreme Court and adding two more states...

12 posted on 12/16/2020 6:52:30 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: SauronOfMordor

“The purpose of retaining the Senate filibuster, is so that the minority party leadership always has something to sell.”

The “nuclear option” has kind of killed that party.


13 posted on 12/16/2020 6:53:57 AM PST by brownsfan (Fix the schools, or nothing else we do matters.)
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To: devane617

as did many FReepers.


14 posted on 12/16/2020 6:58:50 AM PST by plain talk
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To: SeekAndFind

“If I had ten of you, I would be broke as a mofo”.......

“If I had ten of you, Krispy Kreme would be run out of business”......

I could go on.
The woman makes me utterly sick.


15 posted on 12/16/2020 7:05:57 AM PST by cranked
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To: 1Old Pro

Senate Leader Mitch McConnell Warns Republican Senators Not To Challenge 2020 Election Results

Posted on  by Sundance

The leftist spin in the Politico article is purposeful in reference to their alignment with the Democrats; however, the substantive content of the article is accurate.  Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and his Decepticon henchmen (Thune, Blunt and Barasso), warn the republicans not to object during the January 6th certification the electors.

If a republican senator objects to the election certification, a roll-call vote within the chamber will be required and McConnell doesn’t want the optic of Republican senators voting to affirm Joe Biden as the president-elect.   McConnell fears the sunlight.

WASHINGTON DC – Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell warned Republican senators Tuesday during a private caucus call not to object to the election results on Jan. 6, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

McConnell told his caucus that challenging the results would force Republicans to take a “terrible vote” because they would need to vote it down and appear against President Donald Trump. Senate Majority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.) and Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) also echoed McConnell’s remarks.

Several House Republicans, led by hard-line conservative Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.), are still planning to challenge the election results on Jan. 6, the date Congress will officially certify them. If a Republican senator joins the long-shot effort, however, it will force both chambers to take a vote on the election. But they have yet to get official buy-in from any GOP senators, though Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) hasn’t ruled it out. (read more)

In the final analysis it all comes down to a very familiar place for long-term CTH red-pilled readers.  The UniParty has two wings, but it is still one bird.   McConnell is in control of the Senate and he has earnestly worked against the interests of President Trump for the past four years.  CTH has tried to point this issue out since 2011, now we see more people starting to wake up and pay attention.

DC has one interest, the maintenance of their system.  It is a simple yet frustrating reality to admit that only one party currently exists within Washington DC; however, that is the unfortunate reality.   The processes within DC are created to protect themselves against us, the people.  {2018 – GO DEEP}

Other than President Trump, approximately half of America doesn’t have a representative voice in Washington DC.  It is very frustrating.

We cannot say we were not warned [ SEE HERE ] it was obvious immediately after the Democrats won the House in 2018 that McConnell was breathing a sigh of relief.  [Also a reminder: the SSCI doesn’t run an operation against the President without the Leader of the Senate knowing about it.]

Through his power structure McConnell directly controls about 8 to 15 republican senators; we have called them “The Decepticons” for years. [Cornyn, Thune, Porter, Blunt, Portman, Burr, Barasso, Crapo, Murkowski, Gardner, Roberts, Sasse, Tillis, Rubio, Graham and Romney]

McConnell has a well-used playbook he deploys to retain power at all costs and select candidates that will be indebted to his Senate schemes. Senate candidate Doug Collins was up against the same Mitch McConnell machine readers here are very familiar with.

To remind ourselves how Minority and Majority Senator McConnell took down the threat of the Tea Party revisit these old articles CNN Part I and CNN Part II  both showcase how McConnell works.   Then do some research on how McConnell worked with Haley Barbour in Mississippi [SEE HERE].

Remember October last year?

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announced his resolution warning President Trump not to remove troops from Syria or Afghanistan.  [Not coincidentally the two countries visited by Speaker Pelosi and Adam Schiff the prior weekend.]

Source

Of course the obvious, albeit unwritten “or else” part, was McConnell threatening to join with Senator Lindsey Graham and support President Trump’s impeachment.

Of course this came on the heels of Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announcing he was  “especially proud” of passage for his amendments requiring the U.S. military to continue operations in Afghanistan and Syria:

(Tweet Link)

The bill passed 77-yea, 23-nea.  [Vote Tally Here] The only Republican who voted against perpetual war in the middle east and supported President Trump was Rand Paul.

Every time this happens victims of battered conservative syndrome start a process of reconciling the reason for their abuse by excusing and justifying their abuser, Mitch McConnell.

There are massive numbers of Republicans who view Senate Majority Mitch McConnell as a brilliant strategist and staunch supporter of President Trump. Unfortunately, those voices once again have to reconcile McConnell’s comprehensive failure on any President Trump priority action.  McConnell even negotiated for less border security.

For those who follow the deep weeds of politics, McConnnell’s schemes are brutally transparent. For the remaining 97% of the voting electorate, they still don’t understand how the UniParty works. Decepticon leader McConnell doesn’t want the American electorate to see purchased senate republicans voting NO on border security.

Consider Senator Mitch McConnell telling the President of the United States that he had “excessive expectations” because President Trump doesn’t understand how things are done around here:

“A Congress goes on for two years. Part of the reason I think that the storyline is that we haven’t done much is because, in part, the president and others have set these early timelines about things need to be done by a certain point.”

“Our new president, of course, has not been in this line of work before, and I think had excessive expectations about how quickly things happen in the Democratic process.”

Senate Majority Leader, Mitch McConnell

That rebuke irked President Trump, as it should.  President Trump responded via twitter: “I don’t think so”…

McConnell must preserve the trough – Corporations (special interest group) write the legislation. Lobbyists take the law and go find politician(s) to support it. Politicians get support from their peers using tenure and status etc. Eventually, if things go according to norm, the legislation gets a vote.

Within every step of the process there are expense account lunches, dinners, trips, venue tickets and a host of other customary financial way-points to generate/leverage a successful outcome. The amount of money spent is proportional to the benefit derived from the outcome.

When a House or Senate member becomes educated on the intent of the legislation, they have attended the sales pitch; and when they find out the likelihood of support for that legislation; they can then position their own (or their families) financial interests to benefit from the consequence of passage. It is a process similar to insider trading on Wall Street, except the trading is based on knowing who will benefit from a legislative passage.

The legislative construct passes from K-Street into the halls of congress through congressional committees. The law originates from the committee to the full House or Senate. Committee seats which vote on these bills are therefore more valuable to the lobbyists. Chairs of these committees are exponentially more valuable.

Now, think about this reality against the backdrop of the 2016 Presidential Election. Legislation is passed based on ideology. In the aftermath of the 2016 election the system within DC was not structurally set-up to receive a Donald Trump presidency.

If Hillary Clinton had won the election, her Oval Office desk would be filled with legislation passed by congress which she would have been signing. Heck, she’d have writer’s cramp from all of the special interest legislation, driven by special interest groups that supported her campaign, that would be flowing to her desk.

Why?

Simply because the authors of the legislation, the originating special interest and lobbying groups, were spending millions to fund her campaign. Hillary Clinton would be signing K-Street constructed special interest legislation to repay all of those donors/investors.

Congress would be fast-tracking the passage because the same interest groups also fund the members of congress.

President Donald Trump winning the election threw a monkey wrench into the entire DC system…. In early 2017 the modern legislative machine was frozen in place.

The “America First” policies represented by candidate Donald Trump were not within the legislative constructs coming from the K-Street authors of the legislation. There were no MAGA lobbyists waiting on Trump ideology to advance legislation based on America First objectives.

As a result of an empty feeder system, in early 2017 congress had no bills to advance because all of the myriad of bills and briefs written were not in line with President Trump policy. There was simply no entity within DC writing legislation that was in-line with President Trump’s America-First’ economic and foreign policy agenda.

McConnell has a history of getting caught in his schemes. However, fortunately for him people also have a tendency to forget [see McConnell’s scheme in the Mississippi 2014 Cochran race as an example].  Almost no-one remembers that U.S. Senator Jim DeMint, the founder of the Senate Conservative Fund, quit the Senate specifically because of the schemes and internal Machiavellian power moves of Mitch McConnell.

Senate Leader Mitch McConnell has one major career alliance that has been unbroken and unchanged for well over two decades.  That alliance is with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and specifically with CoC President Tom Donohue.  [SEE HERE and SEE HERE].

If the president continues to remain focused exclusively on what is in the U.S. best interests, he must be stopped. Politicians in DC cannot just sit-by and allow the U.S. economy to be based on the interests of Americans; it would mean the destruction of years of central planning by DC Lobbyists, multinational banks, Wall Street and multinational corporations.

Familiar faces, perhaps faces you previously thought were decent, are now revealing their alignment with larger entities that are our abusers.  The ‘America First’ economy and Trump-trade doctrine upsets the entire construct of this multinational export/control dynamic. Team Trump focus exclusively on bilateral trade deals, with specific trade agreements targeted toward individual nations (not national corporations).

‘America-First’ is also specific policy at a granular product level looking out for the national interests of the United States, U.S. workers, U.S. companies and U.S. consumers.

Additionally, under President Trump’s Trade positions, balanced and fair trade with strong regulatory control over national assets, exfiltration of U.S. national wealth is essentially stopped.  This approach put many current multinational corporations, globalists who previously took a stake-hold in the U.S. economy with intention to export the wealth, in a position of paying for interest of an asset they can no longer exploit.

Perhaps now we understand better how massive multi-billion multinational corporations and institutions are aligned against President Trump. Congress does not write laws or legislation, special interest groups do. Lobbyists are paid, some very well paid, to get politicians to go along with the need of the legislative group.

When we are voting for a Congressional Rep or a U.S. Senator we are not voting for a person who will write laws. Our rep only votes on legislation to approve or disapprove of constructs that are written by outside groups and sold to them through lobbyists who work for those outside groups.

While all of this is happening the same outside groups who write the laws are providing money for the campaigns of the politicians they need to pass them. This construct sets up the quid-pro-quo of influence, although much of it is fraught with plausible deniability.

Politicians like Mitch McConnell are not happy without their indulgences, but the issue is actually bigger.  Less K-Street expenditure also means less personal benefit; and worse still, no opportunity to advance financial wealth from the insider trading system.

His primary worry has passed.  There’s no reason to play nice.  Mitch McConnell will now undermine President Trump with greater visibility.  It has nothing to do with ideology, the issue is much more foundational…. MONEY.  There are trillions at stake.

 


16 posted on 12/16/2020 7:09:16 AM PST by Bratch
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To: SeekAndFind

No mention of the GA state election law that confines voters in a runoff election to only those who voted in the special election for Senators held earlier can vote in its continued runoff election.


17 posted on 12/16/2020 7:18:14 AM PST by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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To: devane617

‘Rove had Trump being reele3cted in a landslide’

He was right. What is your point?


18 posted on 12/16/2020 7:25:12 AM PST by billyboy15 ( )
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To: dforest

Spot on, the Mitch Judas thinks he’ll keep us. NOT.


19 posted on 12/16/2020 7:25:41 AM PST by deep trout
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To: SeekAndFind

Karl Rove is not a friend of conservatives.

Never has been.


20 posted on 12/16/2020 7:44:28 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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