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To: Hostage
A) No, because the votes are secret, they are sealed until January 6, Electors therefore do not know that "their candidate" is defeated.

B) Petitioners claims are barred because they are nonsensical

C) No, because there are no Presidential elections in the Constitution, only Electors, and no Elector has any right to supervise the vote of any other Elector

D) There is no such power to "decertify a Presidential election", ref A) and C).

E) No.

6 posted on 12/13/2020 9:22:15 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: Jim Noble

I will only comment on your A) because the rest is ‘nonsensical’.

The Electors, in this case a slate of GA Electors, were not selected. The GA Electors selected were for Biden. Their vote for Biden, sealed or unsealed is irrelevant. The GA Electors for Trump were eliminated by CRIMINAL FRAUD.

All of the above matters conditionally on how the Court reacts.

December 18th is D-Day, we are at the Rubicon.


24 posted on 12/13/2020 9:37:48 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Jim Noble

“A) No, because the votes are secret, they are sealed until January 6, Electors therefore do not know that “their candidate” is defeated.”

Why does an elector have to know which candidate won in order to sue? If federal laws were broken in such a way that they gave advantage to the set of Electors that favored one candidate over another that should be sufficient reason to justify the suit. Otherwise you would then have to sue after the Electors vote which is then too late.

(Parties choose their slate of Electors and they obviously choose them because they are committed to vote for the party’s candidate)

And doesn’t any Trump voter have standing to bring suit?

And why isn’t simply the breaking of a law not sufficient cause for a suit, whether actual damage has yet occurred or not?

If a cop catches me speeding he’ll give me a ticket whether I caused an accident or not.


34 posted on 12/13/2020 9:59:51 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Jim Noble

Jim Noble
* * * * *
You seem to know a lot about the law. Were you ever a Federal Judge? Not to be rude, but you seem to know what they think. Or at least you think you know how they think.
thank you


37 posted on 12/13/2020 10:04:16 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: Jim Noble; All
A) is not quite right because the slate of electors sent to vote are different depending on who won the popular vote in the states. Each party picks a slate.

I do agree with your overall point. This is Sidney throwing something at the wall to see if it sticks. It won't. They might as well continue to do this a little awhile longer to expose what we know about the law not being following in various states and any corrupt or fraudulent acts.

That said, the ONLY thing that matters now is Purdue (R) vs Ossoff (D) & Loeffler (R) vs Warnock (D) in Georgia.

39 posted on 12/13/2020 10:05:43 AM PST by newzjunkey (Purdue in GA for the Senate - Vote Giant Meteor in 2020)
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To: Jim Noble

As to “ the votes are secret” here are the very public record state-certified electoral votes... and the Electors names. Not secret, as each and every Elector (whose numbers by State are set by Congressional Representation numbers) is recorded as are the supposedly .... supposedly ... legal votes for them from each county in a state.

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020

So Answer A. is incorrect. Go on from there negating each following answer.


59 posted on 12/13/2020 10:50:17 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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