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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Please quote the post where I have argued in favor of lockdowns or mask mandates. I can quote you dozens of posts where I have vehemently argued AGAINST both.

OK, I'll take your word for it. But any support of the BS hyper-inflated infection numbers are effectively a support for lockdowns and masks, because those are the numbers they are using to justify them.
101 posted on 12/03/2020 5:42:17 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak
"But any support of the BS hyper-inflated infection numbers are effectively a support for lockdowns and masks, because those are the numbers they are using to justify them."

Actually it's exactly the opposite: accepting that the numbers are as high as they makes it more important that the governors and state government officials, health departments, etc. have effective policies. If nobody's dying because none of this is real, then who cares whether they're putting infected patients into nursing homes and causing people to pack the aisles at Costco to panic-buy the toilet paper? What does it matter that they're putting up homeless people in hotel rooms on the taxpayer dime?

But if this is all real and they're knowingly putting infected people into nursing homes, leading to tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths - possibly as many as 100,000 unnecessary deaths? Then they should be under indictment and on their way to prison. Then inspiring panic-buying at Costco and Walmart is driving up infection rates and causing unnecessary deaths. And taking homeless people from the outdoors (low risk per the CDC) and putting them indoors (high risk per the CDC) is costing lives.

Accepting the reality of the deaths being what they are is completely separate from accepting that the response has been effective. It hasn't been. To some degree, I think it's been literally criminal. This is a serious situation. It demands a serious response. What we've gotten - particularly from states with Democrats running the government - has been a bunch of half-baked anti-science nonsense that's driven businesses out of business and middle class families into poverty.

I accept the numbers for what they are because all the research I've done into them suggests the numbers are largely accurate. What one must also then examine is how many lives have been lost BECAUSE of the response from the governors. And every one of those lives should be considered criminally negligent homicide when the eventuality was foreseeable. Put Cuomo in shackles and never let him see the light of day again. Newsom too. Probably a half dozen others right along with them. Yeah, those deaths are real, and a boatload of them are dead BECAUSE these idiots utterly failed to effectively respond.

102 posted on 12/03/2020 7:31:13 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: fr_freak

Actually, if the numbers that are currently put out were inflated by a factor of 10, they still wouldn’t justify the lockdowns and draconian measures on businesses. I for one am pretty damn tired of being pushed around by state governors and federal officials that think they’re emperors.


120 posted on 12/06/2020 8:17:23 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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