Here's what it looks like when medical professionals are genuinely concerned about disease, they don't wear paper masks that are only designed for a sterile operating room:
Posted on 12/03/2020 8:51:22 AM PST by rxsid
Renowned scientist tells Laura Ingraham the COVID-19 vaccine is 'downright dangerous' and will send you 'to your doom'
On Wednesday, The Ingraham Angle broadcast a mind-boggling live interview with a world-renowned microbiologist who said the "looming" COVID-19 vaccine is "downright dangerous" and will send you "to your doom." The expert, Sucharit Bhakdi, M.D., speaking from his home in Germany, also said this:
Laura Ingraham, Fox News channel host: On the social distancing and the mask, just to focus on that for a moment, which of those two in your research and your work has been the most displaced?Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi: Both.
Ingram: Both. Not backed up by the science.
Bhakdi: Zero science.
Bhakdi is the co-author of Corona: False Alarm?, a massive bestseller in Germany that was published in English here on October 2. The book is currently the #1 bestseller in the Amazon categories of Microbiology, Pulmonary Medicine, and Health Law.
In response to Ingraham's question of why these methods — including masks and social distancing — are being "pushed," Bhakdi elaborated:
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Bhakdi described as "utter nonsense" Dr. Anthony Fauci's claim earlier Wednesday during a live interview on The Story with Martha MacCallum on the Fox News Channel that 75% of Americans would need to be vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to achieve herd immunity. Bhakdi added, "Someone who says this has not the slightest inkling of the basics of immunology."
In response to Ingraham's final question, "So you think the COVID-19 vaccine is unnecessary?" Bhakdi replied: "I think it's downright dangerous. And I warn you, if you go along these lines, you are going to go to your doom"(emphasis added).
At that point, Ingraham ran out of time but promised to have Dr. Bhakdi back on her program.
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Here’s the clue I got many years ago. I have taken the flu, and every other vaccine offered, all my life, as soon as possible.
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Never had a reaction......except for continued health. Why would you assume the MSM and the Deep State boogeyman have been making my choices for the last 60 years?
Its your life. But just a suggestion, quit being such a pugnacious poster, it is quite un necessary.
I think your post is called wisdom. The top virologist in the eu recommends 2000 to 5000 units d3 a day for the course of the pandemic and return to a normal life.
He calls the Covid response a scam.
I prefer my science comes from the best in the field, not politician’s playing doctor on tv.
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There are dozens of articles from true virologists saying the curve was flattened, that we made things worse by wearing masks and not achieving herd immunity in the early summer. It isn’t me saying it. Do your own research. You’ve swallowed the red pill.
Here's what it looks like when medical professionals are genuinely concerned about disease, they don't wear paper masks that are only designed for a sterile operating room:
Judge, I rest my case...
Your original statement was “the pandemic ended in May”.
Now you’ve moved on to “the pandemic WOULD have ended in early summer, but then it didn’t because masks.”
What’s next?
https://bioethics.georgetown.edu/2017/01/is-it-true-that-there-are-vaccines-produced-using-aborted-fetuses/
I'm not ignorant. I got started on this because my daughter has Crohn's disease. Dr's said it was hereditary. No one in our family ever had it. Crohn's supposedly came from the Middle East, mainly Jews. I have no Jewish or Arab blood that I know of. My daughter has all of her vaccinations though. My nephew had his first seizure about an hour after his first vaccination @10 months old. He spent his life seizing several times a day until his death at 29 yo.
Watch the documentary "Vaxxed". If you believe everything the government tells you you will die a terrible death not knowing what killed you. Do you believe in man made Global warming? Do you believe Biden won? Do you believe Trump colluded with the Russians?
Pfizer’s vaccine does not utilize any fetal stem cell work in any part of its process. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/pfizer-covid-vaccine-not-created-with-fetal-cells/
I’m sorry your family has health issues. Seriously, I am sorry to hear that. I don’t know the specifics of each individual’s case. But I can say that the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has an extremely low bar for payouts. You need no medical proof that a vaccine caused an injury. You simply need to show that something bad happened, that it happened within some reasonable timeframe after having had a vaccine, and then provide a plausible theory for how the vaccine did that. If you can do that, they pay out an AVERAGE of six-figures.
With that massive incentive and very low bar, they pay out one time per one million vaccinations. Getting injured by a vaccine is literally less than a one-in-a-million shot.
“Vaxxed” isn’t a documentary; it’s conspiracy drivel peddling lies and half-truths in order to push an agenda. And I don’t believe everything the government tells me. In fact, I believe very little of what it tells me. “Trust but verify” was a mantra for President Reagan. And I agree fully. I go to the published scientific research. You should too. It would help with understanding why the nonsense presented in this article and “Vaxxed” is absurd on its face.
Did you go to the link I sent where it says vaccines are made using fetal cells? Pfizer uses RNA to make artificial components in the vaccine. It still mixes DNA material with the hosts DNA.
Really? Have they tested women of child-bearing ages, trying to conceive? Do they know for a fact, that these mRNA vaccines (that re-program cells) have no impact on fertility? What about testing on males? Are you certain?
My bet is that any woman pregnant, or one trying to conceive was excluded from their studies. We will not fully know the answer to these questions for years.
That doesn't mean what you think it means. Some vaccines use fetal stem cells for viral sample culturing. They're not used to produce the shot that goes in your arm. They're used to create enough viral material to do testing and they're used to help understand how the virus attaches to cells and where possible attack vectors against the virus exist. The shot that goes in your arm doesn't have fetal stem cells. There would not be any reason for it to have that.
The shot that goes in your arm or up your nose has either a gen 1 (inactivated/attenuated pathogen), gen 2 (Subunit/recombinant/polysaccharide/conjugate), or gen 3 (mRNA inside a lipid shell) vaccine. Now what part of any of those has fetal stem cells in there? (Hint: none).
"Pfizer uses RNA to make artificial components in the vaccine."
Yes? And? That's what a gen 3 vaccine is: messenger RNA contained within a lip shell. The mRNA is picked up by ribosomes who then produce the encoded protein (because that's what ribosomes do). The lipid shell is just fat and is absorbed into the cell membrane. It's all gone within a day. The mRNA has a half-life of around 18 - 24 hours. Within a few days, it's all gone as well. These components already exist within your body. The mRNA sequence is merely custom created to help your immune system recognize the surface glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2.
"It still mixes DNA material with the hosts DNA."
And we're off the rails again. No, it doesn't. There is no DNA in these vaccines. There is messenger RNA. Totally different thing. And there is no "mixing" taking place. mRNA from the vaccine is in the cytoplasm of the cell outside the nucleus. DNA is inside the nucleus. Anything passing the nucleus barrier requires a transport mechanism.
What are you claiming is the transport mechanism for Pfizer's mRNA or Moderna's mRNA?
How are you claiming the mRNA itself is somehow unwinding DNA, which is a necessary step in making any changes?
How are you claiming the mRNA itself is cutting DNA since it can't do that?
How are you claiming the mRNA itself is making selective inserts into DNA since it can't do that?
How are you claiming that the mRNA is performing DNA repair, which is necessary to prevent cell death after any changes are made, since mRNA can't do that?
What is the mechanism to enable each of these things to happen?
Do you understand how mRNA normally works in a cell? When the cell needs to manufacture a protein, a process takes place inside the nucleus where the part of your DNA that encodes that protein unravels (with the help of specific enzymes), then RNA polymerase transcribes the needed section of DNA by building a messenger RNA strand. Once the strand has been built, the DNA is wound up once again and the mRNA is transported out of the cell nucleus. Outside the nucleus in the cytoplasm, it encounters a ribosome. The mRNA strand attaches to the ribosome which then constructs the encoded protein.
This happens all day every moment of your life from conception to death in every cell of your body. To suggest that the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA is somehow "mixing" with your DNA is to suggest that they've managed to make chemistry and biology work backwards to get to the point of DNA transcription, and then totally change the laws of physics and chemistry to somehow do something never before seen or imagined because it doesn't make any sense.
It'd be like saying that because my teacher hands me paper tests, someone else can alter my teacher by handing me a different test. On what planet does that make any sense?
I'm not anti-vax by any stretch. I fully understand how "normal" vaccines work, and I agree with you that we very much desire to get back to normalcy, and away from lockdowns, masks and all the other restrictions currently imposed.
That said, we don't know how these vaccines will work long-term. We also don't know what it will take, or what else we might be asked to trade off to resume a normal lifestyle again. Leftists have already let the proverbial cat out of the bag--they want to use COVID-19 to initiate all kinds of programs and restrictions on life as we know it. You've heard people talk about "resets" and NOT "returning to normal." You think that was coincidental?
Up before mid-April, the U.S. Surgeon General and every doctor under the sun was saying to the public to quit buying masks, it’s depleting supplies for medical facilities and they don’t work outside of medical facilities anyway.
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Redfield was not saying that
He says they reduce severity and deaths from disease. Redfield can make fine distinctions as evidenced by his position.
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Yes, they've been tested on women of child-bearing ages. Not pregnant women (that would be unethical in a phase 1, 2, or 3 study). Just like every other drug and vaccine isn't tested on pregnant women. Nor breastfeeding women. Same process: we NEVER test on them. It would be unethical due to the risk of impact on the child dependent on them who cannot consent.
This is why they aren't recommended for women who are pregnant or breastfeeding. They're specifically told NOT to get this until further testing that is specific to them can be done.
"Do they know for a fact, that these mRNA vaccines (that re-program cells)"
They don't "re-program cells". That's nonsense. They simply cause ribosomes to produce the surface glycoprotein found on SARS-CoV-2 in addition to all the normal things the cell does. It's just adding a new protein to the mix. That new protein triggers an immune response.
"have no impact on fertility? What about testing on males? Are you certain?"
As certain as we are with every single other drug and vaccine every produced. This is why we do phase 1 clinical trials, then phase 2 clinical trials, then phase 3 clinical trials - each with an increasingly large and diverse population of closely monitored volunteers.
This fertility red herring suddenly appeared out of nowhere yesterday. Before that it was all about how Bill Gates was going to mind control us with these vaccines. Now it's focusing in on how we're all going to become infertile for some unknown reason. None of it has any evidence backing it. None of it has any substance to it. It's all a bunch of nonsense with zero reason anyone should buy it.
This is the same testing process used for every drug in your medicine cabinet, every drug on the shelves at CVS, and every drug your doctor can legally prescribe to you. It's the same damn process.
"My bet is that any woman pregnant, or one trying to conceive was excluded from their studies."
Pregnant women are excluded from drug trials such as this. They always are. It's the same damn process.
We have a pretty good idea. The lipid shell is just fat and it's gone as soon as it merges with the cell membrane. If it doesn't hit a cell, it'll slowly break apart over time. It's just fat; your body is full of it. The mRNA inside is inherently unstable with a half-life of hours. Within a few days, it's gone whether the shell it's in encounters a cell or not. The ribosomes don't care what's encoded in the mRNA, so they're unaffected. The glycoprotein itself has no properties that could harm anything; it just triggers an immune response.
All the side effects (headaches, pain at the injection site, fever, body aches, etc.) are immune system responses. It's the immune system trying to slow down or kill the "infection" while the dendritic cells and T-cells figure out what to do with it. Once the appropriate B-cells are activated, antibody production commences. The antibodies will be present in the system for a few months. After which, 90% of the B-cells producing them will die (mostly of exhaustion). 10% will remain as Memory B-cells and provide lasting protection against SARS-CoV-2 barring major immunity-breaking mutations.
This is all normal stuff. This isn't like the bad old days of gen 1 (inactivated or attenuated pathogens) vaccines where one mistake at the lab and you've got live polio running around in your body. This is a bunch of harmless components that break down quickly and go away. Why do you think Moderna was started 10 years ago to exclusively develop this platform? Because it's the future of all vaccines. No gen 1 or gen 2 vaccines will be able to compete once these are further developed.
It's no coincidence that two different gen 3 vaccines were completed with successful human trials before the over 200 competitors. No one can match the speed of producing these because once you have the tools to do this work (which we finally have today), there is no faster process.
"We also don't know what it will take, or what else we might be asked to trade off to resume a normal lifestyle again."
Whatever plans people like Fauci or Cuomo or Newsom may have, the reality is smacking them in the face right now. Already you have people ignoring the second lockdown orders around the world. People are fed up with lockdowns and shutdowns and watching their families and friends be destroyed economically by these ineffective idiots. People are done listening to them and that's before we even have vaccines. Once we have enough people vaccinated that cases and deaths dwindle to near-nothing, then everyone else who's still listening to them will rapidly start asking "why"?
“we need around 70-80% of the people in this country to take the vaccine to kill off COVID-19 and get rid of the masks, the social distancing, and the lockdowns.”
I’m pretty sure we could be 100% vaccinated and STILL have democrats insisting on masks, social distancing and lockdowns:
“I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine, because it may be 70%. And if I don’t get an immune response, the vaccine is not going to protect me,” Redfield said. “This face mask will.” - CDC Director
That would be a foolish mistake on their part. People are already balking at the idea of more lockdowns/shutdowns. Even in Europe they aren't taking it anymore. Once people are vaccinated, case and death rates will plummet and anyone foolish enough to continue trying to enforce any of the COVID-19 restrictions will find themselves exceedingly unpopular with the electorate.
Good, rest your case until you have some substance to add to the discussion. Name calling like “pugnacious” is not helpful or accurate. I am not eager to quarrel.
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However, I get tired of the dreamy nonsense I read, especially about those that doubt the benefit of vaccines. Or, they impugn conspiracy motives or deviousness to public efforts to keep people alive.
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