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To: faucetman; Alter Kaker; CarolinaReaganFan; Jane Long; RummyChick; Steve Van Doorn; ...

There are several other lawsuits out there, including at least one in Pennsylvania State Court.

But the one that Rudy botched was the best one because (1) it was in Fed Court, so it could be reviewed by SCOTUS, and (2) it was in the state with the most contested electoral votes.

Since the Third Circuit Court of appeals (correctly, in my opinion) ruled against Rudy, the best tactic is probably to file a brand new lawsuit in Fed Court in PA, but with different litigants. If it is the same litigants, it will be summarily dismissed under “Res Judicata” (a Latin phrase that simply means “the issue has already been decided”) The new lawsuit should allege pages and pages of facts, identify the witnesses and what they saw, and not be afraid to allege outright fraud.

I have exactly ZERO trust that Rudy can handle such a lawsuit, given that (1) he is not even licensed to practice in PA and (2) as DJT’s personal attorney, he should have been preparing for this litigation as early as August. But he is clearly caught off guard.


243 posted on 11/27/2020 1:35:43 PM PST by God_Country_Trump_Guns
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To: God_Country_Trump_Guns
OK, got it.

Judges can only rule on what is presented to them in a case, not anything else. The judges ruled on what Rudy gave them, which wasn't his best case.

272 posted on 11/27/2020 2:38:50 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: God_Country_Trump_Guns
said, "Since the Third Circuit Court of appeals (correctly, in my opinion) ruled against Rudy... I have exactly ZERO trust that Rudy can handle such a lawsuit... The new lawsuit (with new legal council) should allege pages and pages of facts, identify the witnesses and what they saw, and not be afraid to allege outright fraud."

I couldn't agree more. Even if we fail totally with this case we might get the republican Pennsylvania legislature to assign electors for Trump IF we can show through other means that this case was Fraud.

Once we show this was fraud and get one state the rest will create a domino effect

283 posted on 11/27/2020 3:23:36 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: God_Country_Trump_Guns; All

> Since the Third Circuit Court of appeals (correctly, in my opinion) ruled against Rudy, the best tactic is probably to file a brand new lawsuit in Fed Court in PA, but with different litigants. If it is the same litigants, it will be summarily dismissed under “Res Judicata” (a Latin phrase that simply means “the issue has already been decided”) The new lawsuit should allege pages and pages of facts, identify the witnesses and what they saw, and not be afraid to allege outright fraud.

If rudy avoided bringing up fraud then imaginably there would need to be some internally recognized strategical justification for that tactic. The immediate tactic that comes to my (non legally trained) mind is deliberate avoidance of res judicata via a different lawsuit yet to be filed. Admit it is speculative in nature but I can think of no other logical inference at this moment (other than gross incompetence within the entire trump legal team, which seems unlikely considering he must have behind the scenes folks such as sekulow consulting). Thoughts?


336 posted on 11/27/2020 6:00:09 PM PST by SteveH
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