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To: xkaydet65; Alter Kaker; Miss Didi; knarf; Reno89519; buckalfa; Howie66; Hostage; DiogenesLamp; ...

I read the opinion, which was co-authored by two Trump appointees and a W. Bush appointees. There was NO JUDICIAL BIAS. The judges ruled correctly for what was put in front of them.

The problem is Giuliani. He amended the complaint, and in doing so, butchered it. He threw out the critical causes of action. Then he made an idiot of himself in oral arguments, and specifically said “we are not alleging fraud.” So he lost the motion for an emergency order. Then the whole lawsuit was dismissed. The trial judge did NOT give him an opportunity to amend the complaint again.

Rather than appeal the ruling denying an emergency order, he appealed ONLY the order denying an opportunity to file an amended complaint.

The third circuit had a narrow question before it: “did the District court abuse its discretion by denying an opportunity to amend?”

The answer: No. And I am not surprised. The Circuit Court looked at the case history, looked at the oral arguments, the evidence (or lack thereof) and ruled that there was no abuse of discretion. By the way, “abuse of discretion” is an EXTREMELY difficult standard to prevail upon on appeal. Again, I am not surprised.

Worse yet, even if DJT goes to SCOTUS, the SCOTUS has discretion to DENY to hear the case. And even if they hear the case, overturning on abuse of discretion is not likely. And even if it is overturned, all that means is that Giuliani will have to go back to trial court and submit a second amended complaint, and file another motion for some kind of emergency order.

Highly unlikely.

I blame Giuliani. He has not been inside a court room this century. He is incompetent. He should be fired. Not only is he a bad advocate, he is a bad manager. These cases should have always been litigated by top-tier attorneys. As DJT’s personal attorney, he should have been interviewing the best of the best, and gone to court with a team of gun slingers.

At one point, their lawyer was a local solo-practice divorce and custody attorney. Give me a break!

Mr. President, please bring back Sidney Powell, yesterday! Why is she left to fight these fights alone?


203 posted on 11/27/2020 12:43:29 PM PST by God_Country_Trump_Guns
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To: God_Country_Trump_Guns; Steve Van Doorn

What about Jenna? Doesn’t she bear some of the blame, too?


206 posted on 11/27/2020 12:51:32 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: God_Country_Trump_Guns
Thanks for that analysis. I wonder what is going on. I know they hired one law firm, but that law firm suddenly backed out because of social pressure.

This stuff is too important to allow it to fall through the cracks of our goofy Judicial system.

233 posted on 11/27/2020 1:26:01 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: God_Country_Trump_Guns
I really appreciate your reply.

Your reasoning aligns with my confusion why not much seems to be getting done

238 posted on 11/27/2020 1:30:48 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ..... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: God_Country_Trump_Guns
I read the opinion, which was co-authored by two Trump appointees and a W. Bush appointees. There was NO JUDICIAL BIAS.
Let's try these ridiculous assertions:

- But Pennsylvania law is willing to overlook many technical defects. It favors counting votes as long as there is no fraud.

So technical defects are not grounds for overturning incorrect counts?

- . It never alleges that anyone treated the Trump campaign or Trump votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or Biden votes.

Uhm, that's precisely the allegation (equal protection, which this judge denies was violated)

- Plus, tossing out millions of mail-in ballots would be drastic and unprecedented, disenfranchising a huge swath of the electorate and upsetting all down-ballot races too.

So would unprecedented fraud.

- Still, counties have some control over these poll watchers and representatives. The Election Code does not tell counties how they must accommodate them.

Denying reasonable access to "poll watching" would deny the entire purpose of poll watchers.

- To vote by mail, a Pennsylvania voter must take several steps .... Not every voter can be expected to follow this process perfectly.
So all improper ballots must be accepted?

There's so much more, but these above are clear evidence of bias by the judges.
261 posted on 11/27/2020 2:12:47 PM PST by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: God_Country_Trump_Guns

Where is the actual suit filing? The full filing.


271 posted on 11/27/2020 2:38:41 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: God_Country_Trump_Guns

I see you points. Thanx for the insight


281 posted on 11/27/2020 3:11:56 PM PST by thinden
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To: God_Country_Trump_Guns

so is there a work around? new filing with new plaintiffs with standing? sidney powell atty?
was penn where the big gun trump lawyers dropped out due to doxing?


300 posted on 11/27/2020 4:16:30 PM PST by rolling_stone ( EAT )
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To: God_Country_Trump_Guns

Thank you for your instructive reply. Your view makes what happened sensible. I agree. Don’t bring a pop-gun to a real firefight.


391 posted on 11/27/2020 10:15:28 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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