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Why California Republicans Stopped Complaining About Ballot Harvesting And Embraced The Harvest
National Review ^ | 11-22-20 | Tobias Hoonhout

Posted on 11/23/2020 1:31:39 PM PST by Persevero

Following a bloodbath for Republicans in the 2018 midterms, then-House speaker Paul Ryan couldn’t believe what he had seen out in California.

“We were only down 26 seats the night of the election and three weeks later, we lost basically every California race,’’ Ryan — a mentor to California Republican and current House GOP head Kevin McCarthy — told the Washington Post in a post-mortem interview. “This election system they have — I can’t begin to understand what ‘ballot harvesting’ is.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ballot; bidenvoters; california; harvesting
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Aghast at how our California GOP was caught with its pants down on this - but we seem to have caught up. I personally as a precinct captain attempted to ballot harvest this year. I poll checked at my precinct and then contacted those I could who had not yet voted to see if I could come get their ballot. We all need to do this. Be precinct captains y’all.
1 posted on 11/23/2020 1:31:39 PM PST by Persevero
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To: Persevero

Can’t beat, join ‘em.

To the Rats, cheating is part of the game. If you beat them by cheating better, they go away mad but they go away.


2 posted on 11/23/2020 1:34:56 PM PST by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: Persevero

True “voter harvesting” involves going to nursing homes and assisted living facilities, and other group homes or apartment complexes where disable folks live, and filling out their ballots for them.

Sometimes the harvester has the person sign the ballot, sometimes not.

Sometimes the harvester actually contacts the person, sometimes not.

Then sometimes the harvester repeats this exercise at the local cemetery.

This year the Democrats also harvested “votes” of folks who were registered to vote but did not vote in 2016. Their “ballots” were completed since it was unlikely they would actually vote in 2020.


3 posted on 11/23/2020 1:36:18 PM PST by cgbg ( Remember 1876--we _can_ do this!--Biden--Office of the Prisoner-Elect)
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To: Regulator

Technically not cheating as it is legal.

However I don’t support the law; vote on Election Day or I don’t think your vote should count.


4 posted on 11/23/2020 1:36:45 PM PST by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: Regulator

So what you are saying is the best cheater wins? I do not agree. There should not be a mechanism for cheating.


5 posted on 11/23/2020 1:38:22 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Persevero

No.
Ballot harvesting needs to be illegal.


6 posted on 11/23/2020 1:38:54 PM PST by Little Ray (The Left and Right no longer have anything in common. A House divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: cgbg

In re nursing homes I think the employees there have the advantage.

First of all you can’t visit due to covid now.

Anyway having me show up and say, hi I am here to fill out everyone’s ballot! would probably earn me an escort to the door.


7 posted on 11/23/2020 1:38:54 PM PST by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: Little Ray

I oppose it. But while it is legal I’ll do what I can so it’s not just all the other side doing it.


8 posted on 11/23/2020 1:39:43 PM PST by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: Persevero

Don’t forget to cover the nursing homes and over-55 communities. Lots of GOP voters out there.


9 posted on 11/23/2020 1:41:08 PM PST by proxy_user
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Then sometimes the harvester repeats this exercise at the local cemetery.

They should at least go thru the exercise of digging up the dead voter, and then piling the dirt back in. But, alas I suspect they don't even go thru that trouble.

10 posted on 11/23/2020 1:42:13 PM PST by C210N
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I don’t mean to imply that I have gone into nursing homes.

All I have done is cover my precinct.

If my precinct had a nursing home that might give me cover to enter and try to harvest.

But I don’t think any nursing home is going to let me in.


11 posted on 11/23/2020 1:49:38 PM PST by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: Persevero

Yeah...technically


12 posted on 11/23/2020 1:51:23 PM PST by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: Fungi

I agree.

Once cheating becomes acceptable you might as well burn the country down. The founding fathers would have agreed. God would agree. Only Satan and his helpers would not agree.


13 posted on 11/23/2020 1:54:03 PM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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True “voter harvesting” involves going to nursing homes and assisted living facilities, and other group homes or apartment complexes where disable folks live, and filling out their ballots for them.

Makes you wonder what threats and rewards are used to make sure that the votes are for Democrats.

Voter harvesting should be illegal, as should the new vote-by-mail.

14 posted on 11/23/2020 1:55:23 PM PST by TChad (The MSM, having nuked its own credibility, is now bombing the rubble.)
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To: Fungi

It’s sarcasm genius.

But riddle me this: at this point in history, what’s worse? We cheat just as hard as they do or we start shooting each other?


15 posted on 11/23/2020 1:56:24 PM PST by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: Persevero

It appears that Tobias is not the brightest bulb in the socket. Ballot harvesting is a mechanism which allows votes to be prepared by third parties in several fraudulent ways. Republicans are not “embracing” ballot harvesting. They are simply using it to increase the possibility of valid ballots being cast and sent to the voting centers.


16 posted on 11/23/2020 1:58:18 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: TChad

Time to write to your local representative in your state legislature and ban mail in ballots.


17 posted on 11/23/2020 1:59:21 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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[Aghast at how our California GOP was caught with its pants down on this - but we seem to have caught up. I personally as a precinct captain attempted to ballot harvest this year. I poll checked at my precinct and then contacted those I could who had not yet voted to see if I could come get their ballot. We all need to do this. Be precinct captains y’all. ]


What the GOP did is ballot harvesting lite, compared to the Dems, and they still won. Imagine the results if they actually put their shoulders into it and actually got a real operation going, financed with real money.

They bitched about spending $25k in campaigns involving tens of millions of dollars each. Gimme a break. They need to field test and perfect an approach to the process that will match the Dems vote for vote so that every election isn’t a nail-biter for what should be reliably GOP areas like the OC.


18 posted on 11/23/2020 2:02:02 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Persevero

I cannot fault you there. You work with the tools you have not the tools you want.


19 posted on 11/23/2020 2:05:40 PM PST by Little Ray (The Left and Right no longer have anything in common. A House divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: Regulator

To the Rats, cheating is part of the game. If you beat them by cheating better, they go away mad but they go away.


Its not cheating if it is legal.....


20 posted on 11/23/2020 2:19:18 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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