> Once ballots are opened and counted the envelope is no longer kept with ballot.
is this according to law?
if this is true then the a part of the voting process cannot be audited and validated. if the counted ballots so processed are not segregated, the larger ballot pile is spoiled, otherwise the mail in ballot pile is spoiled. imho.
i see that georgia (among other states) has a “notice and cure” law, at least according to this forbes article
however, i wonder what if any safeguards are in place if there is an unlimited supply of blank ballots made available through illicit means to so-called voting factories. if the ballot signature match is only loosely administered during the initial ballot counts at the county level, and the ballot envelopes are discarded, and there is no multi-partisan observation, and no videotaping of the county level ballot counting, then the potential exists for single ballot counters to look at the ballot and arbitrarily to discriminate for or against a particular candidate based on the ballot vote itself (duh), without risk of being audited later.
an audit-deficient or audit-poor process precludes an accurate recount of whatever pile to which each ballot belongs, spoiling that ballot pile.
if all the ballots are thrown together into a larger pile (such as a mixed pile of ballots that include both in person and mail in ballots), then all the ballots in that larger pile become spoiled.
(i wonder how serious the georgia problem is, from this perspective, presuming it is an reasonably accurate rendition of the current georgia ballot situation...)
I will add to this a point of confusion about the process plus a summary inference or two.
For the Dominion systems, the ballot needs to be separated from the envelope and fed into the system, where it presumably needs to stay until audit, hand recount, or certification, whichever comes first. the system presumably remains physically secure from any tampering (adding, deleting or changing ballots inside).
since the mail in ballots have signatures on the envelopes, the mail in ballots should always remain outside of the systems because they need to be with the envelopes, and the system is not designed to handle {ballot, envelope} pairs. also, this should be by process design and system design. presumably the mail in ballots are processed by hand since they cannot be processed by the system.
if mail in ballots are cured (a manual process), one more ballot pile is generated, the pile of ballots that fail the curing process.
therefore the process should always have provisions for at least three types of piles, the in person ballots (processed by Dominion systems), mail in ballots (processed manually), and mail in ballots that fail curing (processed manually).
this presumes that mail in ballots that pass the initial signature match (either manual or automated) are kept in a pile which is separate from the mail in ballots that are cured.
also it seems possible that there are different types of curing, for example, a curing can happen by a second level manual review or by polling location workers sent to residences for in person signature verification.
so the total number of ballot piles could be up to 5 or 6 depending on the design of the ballot count process. only 1 of the many different types of piles seems as if it would end up in the Dominion system boxes.
This does not include considering the potential for different piles for provisional, overseas, and military ballots.
Right there the Dominion system only accomodates a portion of the entire vote, when considering different ballot pile types.
By itself (along with upstream middleware relying only on Dominion system input), the Dominion system does not seem to yield an absolutely accurate ballot count. there is always a fraction that is manually processed and this manual processing encompasses many differing alternative balloting situations.
A scattering of sources is starting to proclaim that the public confidence of the election vote process is shaken by Republicans claiming fraud. But some of the same sources also claim that the balloting process is too difficult for the general public to understand, and drawing a similarity to accounting.
However, I am not aware that there is independent board certification for ballot counting experts, nor a subspecialty within accounting for election ballot counting. I am not aware that there is even a full public description of the balloting process for a given state. However, it seems to me that there should be, and that the deference given to unlicensed, non-certified, non-registered and unregulated election experts given by the media is unwarranted under the current circumstances.
if there is a complete description of the ballot counting process somewhere (say for georgia for example) i would be interested in a pointer.
The guvnor and SoS have rigged the process for the ones who have purchased their souls, so you will never be able to find the fraud. There are ways to discover the fraud, but the criminal guvnor and SoS will prevent those actions so the fraud they survey remains hidden. Thanksfully, if the Dominion software and iopen access to tabulations will expose the Georgia fraud and the criminal behavior of the guvna and SoS will be exposed. (Got rope?)