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The rejected vote count is what matters: The narrative that to contest the election, the Trump campaign must produce enough evidence of fraudulent voters to make up the difference in the vote count is incorrect
American Thinker ^ | 11/09/2020 | Jonathan Cohen

Posted on 11/09/2020 8:02:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The challenge to the 2020 presidential election is based not on unlawful voting, but on ineligible ballots. There is a narrative put out by the Democratic party and their media allies that to contest the election, the Trump campaign must produce enough evidence of fraudulent voters to make up the difference in the vote count. That has very little to do with the bulk of the challenges.

States have a variety of laws to deal with absentee ballots that are put in place to ensure the integrity of the process. These laws are there because it is a lot easier to cheat with mail-in voting. Everyone knows this, though for the last six months, there has been a serious effort to deny it.

As a point of comparison, consider how teachers prevent cheating on exams. They sit in front of the room as students take their exam. They watch them to make sure the students are looking at their own papers. This is enough to prevent most cheating.

Now, imagine a teacher, after several years without incident, deciding that since she has seen no cheating, there is no real reason to watch the students. Instead, after handing out the exams, she leaves the room, returns to her office, and returns an hour later to collect the exams. (If you needed to give an exam without a proctor, you would have to go to great length, such as producing completely different exams for each student, to ensure the integrity of the exams.)

The Democrat party has long promoted mail-in voting, as Democrats believe that their supporters are less likely to vote in person than their opponents' voters. The pandemic presented a unique opportunity to massively increase the number of mail-in ballots and urge their followers to vote by mail.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; fraud; lawsuit
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To: mo
all they need to do is present evidence of an interfered with election that disenfranchises so many voters the only civil rights recourse for them is for that state’s legislative body to vote a set of Electors to the electoral College themselves

You are very wrong. SCOTUS and/or the Republican legistlature will not act unless the fraudsters were caught red-handed trucking in 450,000 ballots marked for Biden. Trump knew this was going to happen. He had over 6 months to work out a sting operation with Barr to catch the bastards. You don't come up with 450,000 illegal ballots overnight in someone's basement. This was a wide-range conspiracy that a sophisticated surveillance sting could have caught. Nothing less than catching them in the act with a sting operation will be accepted.

21 posted on 11/09/2020 8:36:34 AM PST by HandBasketHell
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To: grumpygresh
To truly verify each vote -- and even this wouldn't be enough to detect vote-buying, for example -- you would need to contact each mail-in voter personally, and ask if they completed and sent in their ballot themselves.

As a practical matter, that's impossible to do for every mail-in vote.

22 posted on 11/09/2020 8:41:45 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Adder

RE: So I hope Trump has something...ANYTHING...solid to fight with.

Put yourself in a fair judge’s position — what KIND and TYPE of evidence would make you change your mind about the fairness of the election?


23 posted on 11/09/2020 8:44:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: HandBasketHell
There's no practical way to get that surveillance, though. You'd have to get secret court orders to set up hidden cameras in all the thousands of gyms, libraries, schools, etc., where people vote, in all the rooms where they meet, and do it in a way that poll workers would be unaware of it. That can't, and didn't, happen.

Voting needs to be limited to the maximum extent possible to in-person voting on election day where it is feasible to have enough in-person monitors to actually watch what happens.

As soon as we went to mass mail-in ballots, we were screwed.

24 posted on 11/09/2020 8:45:07 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: PK1991

We need to start using election fraud. The entire election contains evidence of fraud. Not just evidence of voter fraud, making it look like 100,000s of voters decided to cheat. No, it’s systematic election fraud caused by democrats


25 posted on 11/09/2020 8:45:24 AM PST by Betty Jane
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; ...

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26 posted on 11/09/2020 8:45:36 AM PST by bitt (Well gosh, it is beginning to look like rock bottom had a basement to it)
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To: HandBasketHell; mo

RE: You don’t come up with 450,000 illegal ballots overnight in someone’s basement.

OK. that’s a HUGE number. I really like to know how they came up with this number and if they can even PROVE that such illegal ballot number exists in a court of law.


27 posted on 11/09/2020 8:46:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Also consider what you would do if you were a ruling judge and you knew the election was fraudulent, but also knew overturning the election would most likely lead to Civil War, given how the media has already manipulated the masses to believe Biden is legit. What would you do? Would you discard the Truth to avoid conflict?


28 posted on 11/09/2020 8:48:08 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: frogjerk
That’s great but to they have the ballz to actually do something about it? That is the question.

That is truly the question.

As is the case for many Americans, what is unknown is how many legislators, judges and justices who will make these critical decisions fear the Left more than they fear God?

29 posted on 11/09/2020 8:53:31 AM PST by glennaro (Pity those who mask and cower out of fear; condemn those who promote fear as a virtue)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

In the cities they brought the ballots to big buildings to be counted at a hub so it wouldn’t take much to find fraud with cameras and microphones.


30 posted on 11/09/2020 9:02:15 AM PST by BillyCuccio (MAGA)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fraud....is too superficial

What we are witnessing is the organized effort of the Democrat Party to violate the Civil Rights of millions of American’s by disenfranchising them of their vote.

The process by which they are attempting to accomplish this is with Election Fraud and Voter Fraud


31 posted on 11/09/2020 9:02:42 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: SeekAndFind

#VERIFYEverySingleVote


32 posted on 11/09/2020 9:03:17 AM PST by ALASKA (Trump will win resoundingly, but it's not going to be pretty.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Exactly! We just need to have a certain number of ballots ruled ineligible.
33 posted on 11/09/2020 9:10:24 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: mo
Fraud....is too superficial

I greatly suspect foreign powers are aiding the Rats. That makes this TREASON.

Trump formerly said “dishonest media” and recently changed to “corrupt media.” That’s also a step short. It’s the EVIL MEDIA.

34 posted on 11/09/2020 9:17:22 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Look, there’s should be recorded video of all vote counting. Perhaps multiple angles. The recorded video should be viewable by any citizen. Total transparency.


35 posted on 11/09/2020 9:19:43 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: dfwgator

“If you were a ruling judge and you knew the election was fraudulent, but also knew overturning the election would most likely lead to Civil War, given how the media has already manipulated the masses to believe Biden is legit. What would you do? Would you discard the Truth to avoid conflict?”

I’d say that Civil War is inevitable and, with this in mind, expose the truth and get the war underway. Two birds. One stone.

But that’s just me.


36 posted on 11/09/2020 9:20:25 AM PST by unlearner (Be ready for war.)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

I know there should be...but it isn’t possible as a practical matter. You’re never going to get all the right angles, lighting, etc. to actually get good views of every single person tabulating each vote in the tens of thousands of precincts across the country.


37 posted on 11/09/2020 9:37:51 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: SeekAndFind
the Democratic party and their media allies that to contest the election, the Trump campaign must produce enough evidence of fraudulent voters to make up the difference in the vote count.

Horsehockey!!! A bank robbery is a bank robbery regardless of how much money was stolen! If fraud can be proven any fraud makes the entire election illegitimate.....

38 posted on 11/09/2020 9:39:38 AM PST by eeriegeno
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To: ALASKA
#VERIFYEverySingleVote

How do you propose to verify 150 million individual votes?

39 posted on 11/09/2020 9:41:59 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: dfwgator
What would you do? Would you discard the Truth to avoid conflict?

When overwhelming evidence was found that a conspiracy killed JFK, the powers to be were faced with the same question, dirty up the evidence OR tell the truth?

There are lots of other examples to pick from. MANY Americans will believe whatever they are told no matter how ridiculous the DEEP STATE assertions are.

But one of their problems is YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME.

It is about to hit the fan for Joe Biden and his co-conspirators.

40 posted on 11/09/2020 10:19:49 AM PST by politicianslie (I took HCQ+Zn on the 3rd day of symptoms. HCQ+Zn is a grand slam home run CURE!)
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