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Pandemic accelerates with 18.5 percent jump in new U.S. cases
nbcnews.com ^ | Oct. 21, 2020 | Nigel Chiwaya and Corky Siemaszko

Posted on 10/21/2020 10:07:30 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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21 posted on 10/21/2020 10:45:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It is flu season.


22 posted on 10/21/2020 10:46:20 PM PDT by exnavy (american by birth and choice, I love this country!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Testing has gone up, up, up.

Positives go up.

Duh.

But there’s more.

Deaths not up means these recent positives have developed immunity.


23 posted on 10/21/2020 10:49:07 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Sweden did like New York and sent COVID-19 patients to nursing homes.
The vulnerable are already dead.


24 posted on 10/21/2020 10:51:10 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
“New cases” aka positive tests mean nothing.
Over 99.9% survive, don't show any symptoms at all, or show very mild symptoms.
Even an old geezer (albeit a strong vigorous
one) like President Trump recovered like a rocket in three days.
Over 100 million tests equals more positives.
Why are we even wasting our time over this nonsense?
25 posted on 10/21/2020 10:52:57 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: ETCM
as we hit 75,000 new cases per day, we will also hit 1,000 deaths per day

But we are all wearing mask? /s
26 posted on 10/21/2020 10:54:51 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Its not about color, its about character.)
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To: Hostage

It’s fake news from fake made up figures.


27 posted on 10/21/2020 10:55:23 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

So how come figures are going up in New York but the have totally fallen in Sweden then?


28 posted on 10/21/2020 10:57:18 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Is antifeta purposely spreading conv19 for some reason? What are your thoughts?
29 posted on 10/21/2020 10:59:11 PM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is applied Marxism!)
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To: Herakles

Combination of more tests and fake figures from blue states cities and counties for political purposes.


30 posted on 10/21/2020 11:04:15 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

>So how come figures are going up in New York but the have totally fallen in Sweden then?

I’ve seen your nic around. I would have expected you to check the data before posting nonsense.

Since Sep 1, Sweden daily cases are up 5X in the second wave (170 to 823).
New York cases have doubled in the same period (700 to 1500).

Deaths are almost flat in both, in single digits until recently in New York, now 10-20 with a few worse days. And Sweden just had its worst day since July 28 with 6 deaths.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

I check these before saying anything.
They may be lies or damn lies but they are what they are and neither of us have our own independent information.


31 posted on 10/21/2020 11:23:51 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: zeestephen

For the flu, pneumonia is a secondary, opportunistic infection. For CCP-19, pneumonia is a direct symptom. So your argument falls apart right there.

Testing is holding at a pretty steady 800,000 or so per day, and positivity is down from the early days (meaning that testing is gaining ground on the cases), however, positives have increased of late (meaning the disease is spreading faster than it was). Our testing capacity is not exhausted, so they can ramp it up if they need to, and if the disease is spreading faster again, they will need to.

And, no, the CDC lumps flu and pneumonia deaths together, even though the pneumonia is an opportunistic secondary infection and does most of the killing. Flu just softens you up, like CCP-19.

Only 3.25% of flu deaths are “just” the flu. An average of 1350 out of an average of 36,000 flu+ILI deaths, annually. These are multiple year averages, not some cherry-picked once-ever stat like you have a tendency to use, when you aren’t just making stuff up out of whole cloth.

Most of your post is false - some of it deliberately so, as you have had the facts pointed out to you before. You should really stop.


32 posted on 10/21/2020 11:29:43 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
What are the figures since October 1st? Why limit it to September 1st?
What is the total deaths/infections per million in Sweden as compared to New York State or New York City?
How many suicides, domestic abuse cases, child abuse cases all from lockdows did lockdown New York experience as compared to the no lockdown Sweden?
What was the economic damage in New York all from brutal lockdowns as compared to no lockdowns Sweden?
33 posted on 10/21/2020 11:31:37 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Hostage

>Deaths not up means these recent positives have developed immunity.

Deaths go up 2-4 weeks after cases. Several Euro countries are back to dying at rates higher than the US for the time being because their second wave started earlier.

Immunity is kind of a 2-stage thing. You can be immune to dying from it and you can be immune to catching it. When the people who died from it are dead, that doesn’t make anyone else more immune. The disease can only kill them once.


34 posted on 10/21/2020 11:35:20 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
They may be lies or damn lies but they are what they are and neither of us have our own independent information.

Cherry picking data to advance a “beat Trump in November “ agenda is nothing new.
Fauci has been doing it for over 6 months.

35 posted on 10/21/2020 11:35:26 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

cases are merely alleged positive test results. probably millions more have been exposed to the virus, so -

stop testing until after the election.


36 posted on 10/21/2020 11:38:22 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: SmokingJoe

When those statistic become available, I’m sure there will be topics for them.

Why Sep rather than Oct? Short term trends are generally analyzed between inflection points on the curve.


37 posted on 10/21/2020 11:41:17 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: SmokingJoe

I’m not cherry-picking data or advocating courses of action, but I think you are.
I’m just stating facts and correcting misconceptions and misinformation.


38 posted on 10/21/2020 11:46:02 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Of course you are cherry picking.
Go back and answer the questions from #33.
The coronavirus fear porn horse is dead.
You are wasting your time flogging it.
Nobody cares about it anymore, not after President Trump, a 73 year old guy and amongst the most vulnerable, recovered in just 3 days and is now stronger than ever, holding over 2 campaign rallies per day where he gives speeches of up to 2 hours on his feet, as well as running the country. Just try doing that.
People are currently far more worried about jobs (destroyed lockdowns) , feeding their families, the riots and looting by ANTIFA/BLM , rising crime and murders in deep blue states etc.
Last thing I worry about is coronavirus. Its totally irrelevant.
39 posted on 10/21/2020 11:57:05 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Berlin_Freeper

And what is a “confirmed case”? Is it new? Is it antibody test or the other? Is the definition and formula for determining the value the same across all states. I honestly doubt it. I think hospitalizations and death are the only numbers even semi reliable IF they would report honestly (which they arent).


40 posted on 10/22/2020 12:00:35 AM PDT by applpie
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