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To: caww

Why did he pepper spray a guy pointing a gun at him? It still is murder, but who would not consider it an escalation. Gunman can claim the spray made his trigger finger involuntarily jerk.


6 posted on 10/11/2020 10:46:18 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Virtue signaling has no home here!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Assume you dont have a firearm and someone is already pointing a gun at you. If he pulls the trigger, your dead. I believe it is best to try and make him miss. While pepper spray is not the best option, it may have been his ONLY option.

Spray an move, hope the guy gets enough of a dose that he cant see and it messes with his aim. Again, not much of a choice but it may have been his only option.


23 posted on 10/11/2020 10:57:29 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: The_Media_never_lie
They knew Antifah carries before going there. They took the risk knowing the danger....pepperspray isn't going to stop a bullet.
30 posted on 10/11/2020 11:04:01 AM PDT by caww (...This constant pretending the president is a problem is pure evil!...)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Actually, the pepper spray started after the gun came out, kind of a defensive reaction. I am pretty sure the man saw the gun, totally did not expect it, his hands probably started reacting on their own. If you notice the other hand, it has started into his chest as a protective measure, and he is taking a step away from the guy.

Totally unprepared for the gun to come out, and trying to distance himself. But the shooter knew what he was doing and hit him with a head-shot, no attempt at shooting the can out of his hands. The shooter meant to kill.


34 posted on 10/11/2020 11:06:24 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Unless he pulled the gun before the spray was deployed. You have to have a legit reason to pull your gun. Personal fear and angst are not a good reason. Cops get in trouble if their first reaction to an unarmed individual is to pull a weapon. Trained security are taught only pull the gun if you plan to use it. If this security guard pulled his weapon before there was any threat he deserves a charge of manslaughter. The reporter who instigated the confront had big balls because he brought armed security. He needs to be charged as well.


48 posted on 10/11/2020 11:13:51 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angles will sing for me)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“Gunman can claim the spray made his trigger finger involuntarily jerk.”

I think there’s a good chance that’s what happened.

1. Improper finger placement on the trigger.

2. Involuntary reaction to the spray, perhaps the trigger was set light and basically he had an accidental discharge.

Might get him down to manslaughter or similar charge. Anything seen about the “second gun” that was in an early report?


71 posted on 10/11/2020 11:37:47 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ghislaine Maxwell lives and Joe Biden is losing.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
"Gunman can claim the spray made his trigger finger involuntarily jerk."

With a head shot"

98 posted on 10/11/2020 11:59:30 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

We couldn’t see what happened off camera but one must assume he was defending himself. In Colorado, the use of pepper spray is considered a legal and non- lethal form of self defense.
I understand what you’re saying about escalation however.


121 posted on 10/11/2020 12:39:13 PM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Why did he pepper spray a guy pointing a gun at him? It still is murder, but who would not consider it an escalation. Gunman can claim the spray made his trigger finger involuntarily jerk.

Lee Keltner had the can of pepper spray in his hand while he was arguing with the other Antifa jerk a few moments before he walked away from the argument and was intentionally shot dead through his eye.   He didn't spray that jerk even when he was taunted to do so.   He only sprayed pepper spray as a reflex after he was shot.   The photographic evidence proves that.

172 posted on 10/11/2020 3:05:27 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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