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To: CharlesWayneCT
...he approached the reporter, and the security guard grabbed for the pepper spray.

the guy slapped at the murderer and stepped back, and the guard pulled and pointed his gun.


Can you provide a link to this?

The victim pulled out the can of pepper spray during a verbal confrontation with a guy wearing a "Black Guns Matter" shirt. (I'm pretty sure that pepper spray is considered a defensive weapon and not a tool for discussion, but I digress here.) Moments later, he approaches someone off camera and moments after that, he is dead.

The video I've seen confirms what I've stated yesterday: this was a pi$$ing contest that got out of hand. The man wasn't trapped without any options when he pulled the pepper spray out, and the shooter would not have had his life threatened by a can of pepper spray.

www.youtube.com

193 posted on 10/12/2020 8:58:23 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("The side that has truth gets humor as a bonus.")
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To: Captain Walker

New photos show the victim didn’t have just bear spray, he was also wearing a pistol in a shoulder holster. Police reports confirm two firearms were recovered at the scene.

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194 posted on 10/12/2020 11:29:49 AM PDT by Izzatso
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To: Captain Walker

“Colorado considers pepper spray a self-defense tool rather than a weapon (knife or gun). Therefore, the use of pepper spray for defense is permitted. “

That line is repeated in multiple citations discussing the sale of pepper spray in Colorado, so I have no reason to doubt it is accurate.

Various news outlets have shown the picture of the “punch”. In that picture, it is clear that the “punch” is a slap (open hand, and the man is not stepping into it, but leaning back. It is clearly a “swipe”. In that picture, with the hand having JUST hit the face, the shooter’s hand is seen touching the waist of the victim — clearly indicating he was reaching for the pepper spray at the time he got slapped back.

Another picture showing a few seconds later exists on twitter, they marked the ground to show how, at that point, the victim had stepped backwards about 5 feet. Pro-shooter stories say “the man stepped back to pepper spray the reporter”, so they confirm he was retreating.

The picture when the pepper spray is released shows the murderer’s gun pointed directly at the victim, which proves that the gun came up before the pepper was sprayed, and therefor the spray is a rational RESPONSE to a man threatening to kill you. The pepper spray can be seen in the picture, and isn’t directly exactly at the guy since the victim is still stepping backwards.

I can’t find the twitter thread that had all the pictures together, it was referenced in some other article here.

There is a previous video showing the known agitator that seems to be working with the reporter, shouting the n-word at people hoping that one of them will respond with the n-word, or hit him. Our victim does NOT SPRAY THAT MAN. He instead walks away from the man, toward the area where the reported and the murderer were standing.

I have seen no video suggesting the grandfather said anything to the reporter, or threatened him in any way. The pictures I see show that for some reason, the shooter decided he had a right to steal the guy’s pepper spray (being held in a hand, not being sprayed), and when that did not work, deciding that pointing a gun at a person is a legal response to seeing a man with pepper spray (which it clearly is not, as Colorado law allows pepper spray to be used for defense, and pepper spray is NOT A WEAPON in colorado, and therefore you have no right to use a gun in response to seeing a man with a pepper spray can).


195 posted on 10/12/2020 11:35:47 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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