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To: cmj328

“Obergefell should be rescinded”

Get the goober-mint out of the marriage business.
You wanna marry a frog, your GTO, a man, a woman and a non-binary fluid human, go ahead. None of my business.

It’s all handled under simple contract law.

Shouldnt have to get permission from the state to get married.


7 posted on 10/05/2020 5:29:50 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Macoozie

A free marriage between a man and a woman for life is not a contract, it’s a national treasure, and it needs to be recognized as such. When men first encountered Yosemite or Yellowstone, the awe they felt inspired them to conserve the beauty of creation for future generations. Likewise, marriage is an awe-inspiring reality, where the greatest sort of creation occurs, the procreation of human beings within the context of loving natural families.

Government can recognize nature for what it is, and it should recognize marriage for what it is.


14 posted on 10/05/2020 7:06:13 PM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: Macoozie

The churches erred when they accepted the responsibility of recording marriages for the state, IMO.


18 posted on 10/05/2020 8:04:45 PM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: Macoozie
Get the goober-mint out of the marriage business.

Yours is a faulty argument. The ONLY part the government has in marriage is legally recording them and maintaining these records against contestors to the fact. There are no qualifications for marriage other than those broadly recognized by society (no concurrent marriages, no close relatives, etc.), no “competency tests,” no required way to conduct them, no periodic renewal of the license. The government is not “in the marriage business.” It’s in the recording business. The government RECOGNIZES marriages, as it must. And what it recognizes, it must define.

Contestations to marriages are bound to arise (divorce, inheritance disputes, etc.), and when they do, someone will have to officiate these disputes. That someone is always a COURT, and courts are organs of government. Try ignoring a court order to find out.

And no, marriage is not simply a contract, although it may involve a contract. Contracts only impinge upon the parties which voluntarily consent to enter into them, and no one else. Marriage doesn’t meet this definition. Others outside of the contract must act in certain ways toward them (employers offering insurance, memberships in certain clubs, etc.) That does not describe a contract.

28 posted on 10/06/2020 8:30:45 AM PDT by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: Macoozie

Exactly.

L


31 posted on 10/06/2020 8:38:43 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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