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1 posted on 10/04/2020 6:40:04 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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Biden may well win, but by double-digits is a complete lie. They pull this song-and-dance every four years. ABC News, as one example, had Hillary Clinton up by 13 points literally just two weeks before the 2016 presidential election.

The problem is, the only polls that get counted towards a pollster's accuracy rating are their final polls of the race. All the polls considerably tightened near the very end of the race in 2016, and now you have people and pundits today being like "hey, the polls in 2016 weren't so inaccurate, that's just a myth." It's so disingenuous.

Watch it happen again. Seriously. It'll be the end of October or November 1-2 and all the pollsters will be "ooooh, look, Biden's lead over Trump is magically two points now, not twelve, silly us!" Then in 2024, people will write about how the 2020 polls weren't so bad based on those very final numbers and not the garbage most of the pollsters were churning out throughout the bulk of October.

162 posted on 10/04/2020 8:15:24 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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Bwahahahahahahaha

Well if you are going to lie, lie big...

The people making these polls know this is garbage.


166 posted on 10/04/2020 8:20:06 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Pure B$.

Shun it and count your toes. If you have 10 or 9 like I do, you can relax.


173 posted on 10/04/2020 8:27:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (3 NOV. VOTE FOR JOBS! NOT RIOTING BLM/ANTIFA/DEM/MOBS! POLICE FOR US! NOT JUST FOR THE ELITE!)
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Alex, Can I get who has less credibility for 250k, please.


177 posted on 10/04/2020 8:29:52 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. TJ)
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October 16, 2016: NBC WSJ Poll Finds Clinton Leading Trump by 11 With Likely Voters

10/4/2020, 8:25:47 AM · by hcmama
NBC “News” ^ | October 10, 2016 | Carrie Dann

Those polls and the same B$ polls this time are financed by the Chicoms.


181 posted on 10/04/2020 8:31:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (3 NOV. VOTE FOR JOBS! NOT RIOTING BLM/ANTIFA/DEM/MOBS! POLICE FOR US! NOT JUST FOR THE ELITE!)
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This is a replay of the 2016 polls showing hitlery ahead.. don’t think it will work afain


183 posted on 10/04/2020 8:32:47 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!at)
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ummm these “polls” are a complete joke.


186 posted on 10/04/2020 8:36:53 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Two corporations that gave to Biden’s campaign have him ahead? No way...


190 posted on 10/04/2020 8:40:38 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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Ipsos and NBC are both C rated pollsters.

http://www.electionczar.com/pollsterranking.html

Bottom half of pollsters.


193 posted on 10/04/2020 8:42:40 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (Localization, not Globalization)
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NBC was D+9 poll.

Thats way in left field.


195 posted on 10/04/2020 8:44:46 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (Localization, not Globalization)
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The hysteria is strong here .... ‘we gonna loooose oh nose’. Sad we have to put up with this every 4 years (not so much during midterms). They play right into the Rats hands, spread doom and gloom and people stop donating - no one wants to waste money on a losing cause. Trump is up and it is his to lose. Next we will hear how they will steal it. They have been cheating since Nixon / Kennedy. If we have not figured out how to counter it we are he problem. I trust Trump has a plan. Fake polls. And this is not 2016, totally different dynamics so the Rats have a different plan.


196 posted on 10/04/2020 8:46:57 AM PDT by TJC (L)
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Conservatives are too busy working to take polls we just hang up. But we are going to vote like its a rally nov3.


202 posted on 10/04/2020 8:56:12 AM PDT by bandit123 (if you can go to Walmart and the gas station you can VOTE IN PERSON)
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Some pollsters have tried to contact me on my cell phone (at least 3 times) and I’ve refused to answer. I know because the caller ID or text message they identify themselves. It makes me wonder how many times this has happened with others.


216 posted on 10/04/2020 9:28:15 AM PDT by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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"Reuters has Biden +10 and NBC has Biden +14"

Oh my God! That's ... 24 points.

222 posted on 10/04/2020 9:52:29 AM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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Bless their hearts.


223 posted on 10/04/2020 9:54:33 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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Two national polls out today: Same as in 2016

Moscow media never changes.


224 posted on 10/04/2020 9:59:15 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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Poll trends are what we should pay attention to. We should also understand they are lagging indicators and any one event can change a trend.

President Trump had a good trend going into the announcement of ACB. President Trump must have known this was going to happen since he had other choices that would have given him a bump in his polling and chose to stick with who he felt was best for the position.
The second debate drove up his negatives a bit which is not good but it did not move the polling.

His hospital visit will give him a bump in the polls which is why the left is hitting him so hard on the mask.

Biden has been spending like crazy recently to gain support and does have a large support base. If I were to guess things are presently tied in polling at this point with likely voters and the Dem cheating.

But President Trumps team has the ability to move these polls. Such as putting forward a vaccine. Or a couple of indictments would go a long way. Why he does not get this done is a mystery to me. And if President Trump lets them rig the debate as they did with the first it will only be a negative outcome for him.

225 posted on 10/04/2020 10:04:50 AM PDT by MagillaX
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“Two national polls out today: Reuters has Biden +10 and NBC has Biden +14”

Wow! the polls are still fake just exactly like they were on October 16, 2016, except the name has been changed:

“Clinton Holds 11-Point National Lead Over Trump: NBC/WSJ Poll”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/clinton-holds-11-point-national-lead-over-trump-nbc-wsj-n666986

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/clinton-holds-11-point-national-lead-over-trump-nbc-wsj-n666986


234 posted on 10/04/2020 11:51:38 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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In 2016 The exact same author said Hillary +14

Oct. 16, 2016, 5:59 AM PDT / Updated Oct. 16, 2016, 4:48 PM PDT
By Mark Murray

Hillary Clinton is ahead of Donald Trump by double digits with just over three weeks until Election Day, according to a new national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted entirely after the second presidential debate.
In a four-way race, Democrat Clinton holds an 11-point lead over Republican Trump among likely voters, 48 percent to 37 percent, with Libertarian Gary Johnson at 7 percent and the Green Party’s Jill Stein at 2 percent.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/clinton-holds-11-point-national-lead-over-trump-nbc-wsj-n666986


252 posted on 10/04/2020 1:59:20 PM PDT by NoLibZone (It's 2020 & the DNC runs a candidate whose family owned over 200 slaves. When did the parties flip?)
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Sundays are always the worst day of the week for hand wringing here at good ol Freeperville.


258 posted on 10/04/2020 2:06:46 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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