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Debate was a blown opportunity for Trump
Washington Times ^ | September 30, 2020 | Editorial

Posted on 09/30/2020 6:21:08 AM PDT by lasereye

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To: lasereye

Ernst Roehm won


41 posted on 09/30/2020 6:48:00 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: BEJ

And tweets. Trump has 87 million Twitter followers. The way Twitter lets us network is amazing. There is some mischief by administrators, but it is worth the hassle.

If I had a proper computer connection I could do more here, but I miss my keyboard.


42 posted on 09/30/2020 6:48:24 AM PDT by rob from twitter ('Rob on Politics' mostly on twitter: @robsurber)
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To: happyhomemaker

Maybe. It’s hard to know what people really retain in their minds, and what gets discarded. But still Trump just missed on several responses.


43 posted on 09/30/2020 6:48:43 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: FlipWilson
"Today people are taking about the Trump Wallace debate. It is as if Biden wasn’t even there."

That is it, isn't it? No one is saying much about Biden. Trump made Wallace's horrible performance the centerpiece of the debate.

And I'm really getting tired of all the nervous Nancys out there about how Trump "lost" an opportunity last night. It seems like that's all the media (and seminar posters) have: Repubs always "lose" opportunities, Dems never do...

44 posted on 09/30/2020 6:49:07 AM PDT by jeffc (I'm a Patriot, and the media are our enemy)
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To: lasereye

Reagan had a horrible first debate against Mondale in 1984. There was genuine concern for his campaign after it, of course we know what happened.


45 posted on 09/30/2020 6:51:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: pburgh01

Proof reading is your friend.

I have my opinion. You have yours. Get over yourself...


46 posted on 09/30/2020 6:51:49 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: lasereye

“For example, when Trump talked about how he had stopped travel from China and Biden had criticized him for it, he didn’t make it clear what he was talking about. If you didn’t already know about it, it didn’t mean anything.”

WTF are you talking about!? Are you saying someone watched the debate that didn’t know about the China Travel Ban!?

NO WAY that is possible.


47 posted on 09/30/2020 6:52:37 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Buckeye McFrog
My theory does no such thing but it does require one to assume the worst. Generals who assume the best lose wars.

In another reply on that thread I based my argument on the fact the Trump is vulnerable in the geography of the electoral college and therefore must believe the polls or at least the Real Clear average of polls which is about all we have to work with right now.


48 posted on 09/30/2020 6:53:04 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Bingo. Beau was going to be Biden’s knockout punch, no doubt ending in the lie about dead Vets being losers and suckers.

Trump cut his legs out asking if he was talking about Hunter getting kicked out for cocaine and then taking millions fromRussia and China.

Joe looked fit to be tied. Swing & a miss, Joe.


49 posted on 09/30/2020 6:53:45 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: pburgh01

I’ll be just fine even if Biden wins. Can some of you say that?
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Can you elaborate?

Only nomenkultura will be *fine* if Joe wins and they will all be watching their own backs because no one survives in a communist society, let alone will be *just fine*.

Maybe you mean you won’t fret? Who can watch America die under CCP controlled destruction and decline and be sanguine?

Your job will become less secure. Your money will vanish under taxes, regulations and inflation. What is called health care will be ObamaCare on steroids. Your neighborhood or community will either become destructively diverse, ruled by vindictive Karens, or will wither. Your children will become indoctrinated with a future defined by conformity.

I will not be *fine*. Neither will America.


50 posted on 09/30/2020 6:53:59 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Biden and Wallace set it up to be a dog-fight. In a dog fight you have to turn inside the enemy. Ander there were two of them

Almost out of the box Trump discovered that he was being tag teamed because Biden was allowed to lie and Wallace tried to interrupt when Trump called him on his lies. Keeping inside Biden's OODA loop meant keeping jabbing at Biden so fast that the team on the other end of the wire couldn't keep up.

Yes it was a shit show. But Wallace and Biden and his handlers set it up to be a shit show.

51 posted on 09/30/2020 6:55:41 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: dfwgator

Even if you did not like Trump’s performance last night, it was nowhere near as bad as Reagan’s in that first Mondale debate. He must have not been feeling well.


52 posted on 09/30/2020 6:57:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: dfwgator

...Proud Boys...
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They are quite diverse. I’ve even seen a large Samoan-looking guy.

They are not instigators and do not harm property or cause collateral damage.

What, we cannot have American defenders against Antifa?


53 posted on 09/30/2020 6:58:09 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: lasereye

Incumbent Presidents always seem to “lose” the first debate.


54 posted on 09/30/2020 6:58:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: happyhomemaker

Trump blew it. He looked angry the entire time, and didn’t smile at all. He didn’t win over votes and he needed to.

I don’t understand how you can spin this.


55 posted on 09/30/2020 6:59:12 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: lasereye

Yup. Trailing by at least 1,500 points out of 947 registered democommies queried. Guess the Bekins trucks will be all lined up 1/19/2021 on Penn Ave. Or NOT!


56 posted on 09/30/2020 6:59:53 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: jeffc
And I'm really getting tired of all the nervous Nancys out there about Trump "lost" an opportunity last night.

Agree completely. Trump proved he is a pugilist who will land rapid blows against anyone trying to take him down. Happy to have him on my side. The problem is everyone out there trying to find the angle to take him down. As near as I can tell, there is no angle. That's the guy want dealing with the CHICOMS.

Would it be better is somehow Trump could be like Barr and take down folks with a clever phrase like the classic "was that before or after the fires were put out?" but parlor room quips don't win negotiations against countries with nuclear armaments.

57 posted on 09/30/2020 7:02:22 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Biden and Wallace set it up to be a dog-fight. In a dog fight you have to turn inside the enemy. Ander there were two of them

Almost out of the box Trump discovered that he was being tag teamed because Biden was allowed to lie and Wallace tried to interrupt when Trump called him on his lies. Keeping inside Biden’s OODA loop meant keeping jabbing at Biden so fast that the team on the other end of the wire couldn’t keep up.

Yes it was a shit show. But Wallace and Biden and his handlers set it up to be a shit show.
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Absolutely.


58 posted on 09/30/2020 7:02:33 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: nathanbedford

agree...

anyone who sees my posts here knows I hate the commie/marxists more than anyone alive but what i saw last night was a disgrace all around. Do you know what men like Lee or Washington would think of what we witnessed last night? (rhetorical question)

While I do not think last night swayed anyone one direction or the other... I think the die is already cast for what is to happen to this country in the near future, Trump squandered a tremendous opportunity, was extremely off-putting and did not do himself any favors at all. Yes, I will vote for him, but do not think for one second that this man is the league of America’s greatest men (Lee, Washington, Jackson, etc.)

flame away, people... IDGAF...


59 posted on 09/30/2020 7:05:06 AM PDT by Levy78
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To: nathanbedford

Did you notice the spot CNN poll on the debate this morning include Spanish speakers (i.e. non-citizens) and overweights Dems over Republicans, I think it was 39%-24% ?


60 posted on 09/30/2020 7:05:31 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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