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To: Valpal1
"If Walker could hear them verbally announce, why did he call 911?"

If Walker didn't hear them verbally announce, then why did the GJ no bill Cosgrove, who fired the shot who ended St. Bre? I mean, LOFL.

"The banging on the door means nothing, because that could be anyone. It is also not in contention."

Hilarious self-pwn. LMPD's successful knock-and-announce was the key in the GJ no bill.

"They do not agree that Walker could hear the verbal announcement and the cops have no proof that he did and the 911 call provides reasonable doubt because again, who calls 911 to report police are banging on your door?"

Again, the longer you fail to listen to Kentucky Attorney General Cameron's report earlier today, the biggest the fool you make of yourself.

"There is also the issue of the warrant validity, which was brought into question by the civil suit the city paid 12 million to settle."

Louisville 'settled' for a record amount precisely because the Democrats feared the blowback from the GJ no bill. A calculated payoff to protect the Democrat Mayor (Louisville: no GOP mayor since 1969), who appointed the Police Chief, who approved the warrant; and as for the Democat Prosecuting Attorney Wine, he correctly charged Walker and will re-charge him at his leisure, as there is no statutory limit on murder/attempted murder in Ky.

Got anything else as stupid you'd like to say?

131 posted on 09/23/2020 5:12:13 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (I've got your Third Rail of Politics right here.)
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To: StAnDeliver

You are clearly failing to understand that these are two separate legal cases based on completely different legal theories that are wholly dependant of what can be proved to have happened on each side of the door.

For the SYG case of Kenneth Walker, it does not matter what occurred outside the door, only what can be proved to have been perceived by Walker on the inside of the door. Mr. Walker claims he did not know it was police, did not hear their announcement and believed it was a home invasion.

How do you prove none of that is true with no reasonable doubt?

This is why dynamic entries are so problematic, by their very nature, they clash with castle doctrine and self defense statutes as well as the presumption of innocence by not giving the domicile occupant sufficient time to respond and open the door.

In many jurisdictions, state laws simultaneously authorizes police to forcefully intrude into private residences without warning and allows homeowners to use force against a person or persons they reasonably believe to be unlawful intruders committing a forcible felony.

This is what leads to tragedy over and over again with neither side being criminally liable.


134 posted on 09/23/2020 5:37:44 PM PDT by Valpal1
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