Posted on 09/23/2020 10:38:26 AM PDT by rxsid
So Breonna was standing behind the target of the raid who was shooting at police who fired back. That makes the police guilty of the heinous crime of self defense.
She was not shot out of hand. She was standing behind the man who was shooting at police. Her choice of cover was not clever.
Don’t know, might have gotten out of bed. Probably a small area and a lot of rounds
Note 121 and 122. Maybe she was behind him. Not sure we really know.
The prosecutors would have to prove that the occupants could hear the announcement to erase SYG protection. No cams, no audio, didn’t use a bullhorn, so no evidence that the announcement was audible enough to be heard from inside.
That’s wny Walker is not being prosecuted.
1. Did the police go to the correct address?
Yes
2. Was the current boyfriend, Walker, the target, and were there drugs at the location?
No and no
3. Has Walker been charged with anything? Let’s see, he shot first, and forced his girlfriend in the line of fire. Seems some offense there.
Initially, yes, but later charges were dropped. It is unlikely that they will be reinstated due to lack of evidence that the actual announcement could be heard from inside.
LIVE VIDEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUlMOlD1XK4
Bullshit. The eyewitness told the GJ they announced themselves. Walker waited to fire until they got out the battering ram. They beat on the door so goddamn long that Walker called 911, then called St. Bre's mama. And all that got entered at GJ too.
Ima see you back here in this thread after Wine re-files Attemped Murder/Assault on Walker. And anything I can do to help that along, I will.
"Commonwealth’s Attorney Tom Wine on May 22 announced he was dropping the charges at least temporarily, pending further investigation by the FBI and Kentucky attorney general. But Wine said the case could presented again to a grand jury."
The eyewitness was on the same side of the door as the cops, he can testify that he heard the cops verbally announce, he cannot testify that Walker could hear them.
If Walker could hear them verbally announce, why did he call 911?
The banging on the door means nothing, because that could be anyone. It is also not in contention. Both sides agree banging on the door occurred. They do not agree that Walker could hear the verbal announcement and the cops have no proof that he did and the 911 call provides reasonable doubt because again, who calls 911 to report police are banging on your door?
Think rationally, not emotionally. Prove he could hear them through the door, from the hallway, with the tv on in the background.
There is also the issue of the warrant validity, which was brought into question by the civil suit the city paid 12 million to settle. If the warrant were to be invalidated, Walker is back on firm SYG ground.
They are not going to reintroduce charges. Prosecutors like to win and this is a losing case that will do nothing but suck up time and resources.
This ALSO is not true, as no investigation occurred, it was waived off on the spot. BUT the LMPD PIU specifically knew that this gang had a history of destroying evidence:
"these drug traffickers have a history of attempting to destroy evidence, have cameras on the location that compromise detectives once an approach to the dwelling is made, and have a history of fleeing from law enforcement."
If Walker didn't hear them verbally announce, then why did the GJ no bill Cosgrove, who fired the shot who ended St. Bre? I mean, LOFL.
"The banging on the door means nothing, because that could be anyone. It is also not in contention."
Hilarious self-pwn. LMPD's successful knock-and-announce was the key in the GJ no bill.
"They do not agree that Walker could hear the verbal announcement and the cops have no proof that he did and the 911 call provides reasonable doubt because again, who calls 911 to report police are banging on your door?"
Again, the longer you fail to listen to Kentucky Attorney General Cameron's report earlier today, the biggest the fool you make of yourself.
"There is also the issue of the warrant validity, which was brought into question by the civil suit the city paid 12 million to settle."
Louisville 'settled' for a record amount precisely because the Democrats feared the blowback from the GJ no bill. A calculated payoff to protect the Democrat Mayor (Louisville: no GOP mayor since 1969), who appointed the Police Chief, who approved the warrant; and as for the Democat Prosecuting Attorney Wine, he correctly charged Walker and will re-charge him at his leisure, as there is no statutory limit on murder/attempted murder in Ky.
Got anything else as stupid you'd like to say?
You are confusing two different men. Walker was the current BF at her home who shot the officer. Glover was the ex BF, using her address for mail and packages and allegedly stashing cash and shipping drugs there. Unproven allegations, since not found in the search.
Other issues were the planning and expecting Ms Taylor to be home alone, indicating sloppy surveillance and lack of knowledge about the new BF.
Also, the Postal Inspector said she did not receive any suspicious packages and that the PD did not contact them. This is why there are questions about the validity of the warrant, because it appears the officer swearing out the affidavit may have shaded the facts (or outright lied) in regards to his actual knowledge of the mail investigation.
WTF are you even referring to?
"Also, the Postal Inspector said she did not receive any suspicious packages and that the PD did not contact them."
Tony Gooden is a guy. LMPD most certainly did ask Gooden repeatedly.
You are clearly failing to understand that these are two separate legal cases based on completely different legal theories that are wholly dependant of what can be proved to have happened on each side of the door.
For the SYG case of Kenneth Walker, it does not matter what occurred outside the door, only what can be proved to have been perceived by Walker on the inside of the door. Mr. Walker claims he did not know it was police, did not hear their announcement and believed it was a home invasion.
How do you prove none of that is true with no reasonable doubt?
This is why dynamic entries are so problematic, by their very nature, they clash with castle doctrine and self defense statutes as well as the presumption of innocence by not giving the domicile occupant sufficient time to respond and open the door.
In many jurisdictions, state laws simultaneously authorizes police to forcefully intrude into private residences without warning and allows homeowners to use force against a person or persons they reasonably believe to be unlawful intruders committing a forcible felony.
This is what leads to tragedy over and over again with neither side being criminally liable.
This would indicate that the GJ did not hear any testimony from Gooden.
Cameron said his office did not review the circumstances of how police obtained the search warrant for Taylor's apartment. Federal authorities are conducting that investigation, he said.
Gooden has publicly stated that LMPD did not contact him. And it directly contradicts the warrant affidavit.
For instance, Jaynes claimed that a U.S. postal inspector "verified" that Glover was receiving packages at Taylor's home. But Louisville inspector Tony Gooden, told WDRB the Louisville police did not ask his office to conduct that surveillance, but a different law enforcement agency previously did. He has declined to identify the agency, but said the local office concluded no potentially suspicious mail was being sent to Taylor's apartment.
https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/grand-jury-indicts-1-louisville-police-officer-in-raid-resulting-in-death-of-breonna-taylor/article_4e465bbe-d337-11ea-8a7b-4bc016e3304f.html
PING
Thanks, rxsid.
Does deblahblah and those other mayors fall under this?
MAGAZINE! Not a “clip.”
Follow up questions:
1. How many bullets hit Kenny Walker? None? If so, how did he manage to escape being hit?
2. How many shots did Ken Walker fire? Seems they could figure that out by looking at his gun, assuming it was fully loaded.
I would like to see photos of the scene, to get a better understanding. Of course, nobody knows as much about this case as the Grand Jury.
BTW, watching the news last night, virtually everyone had the facts wrong, including Tucker, Hannity, and of course Chris Cuomo. (Didn’t see anyone else. To his credit, Tucker did make one correction near the end of his show.)
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